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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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WHAT'S THREE GRAND IF THE ENGINE HYDROLOCKS. OR MAYBE HALF THAT IF IT'S JUST THE CATS AND A FEW OTHER MINOR THINGS.....

WHY EAT PERFECTLY GOOD BAIT?

I would add MAF Cleaning to the list of things to do along with the highest octane gas available, good spark plug wires and frequent Champion Spark Plugs.

Pull the existing plugs out and take a good look at them, you can learn a lot from that perspective free of charge.

I jus don't care to risk the possible damage doing the induction cleaning. It may work fine for some but I would be mad with myself if I tried it and ran into a big problem. I just felt the OP should be aware and if he decides to try it, fine by me.

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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco
WHAT'S THREE GRAND IF THE ENGINE HYDROLOCKS. OR MAYBE HALF THAT IF IT'S JUST THE CATS AND A FEW OTHER MINOR THINGS.....

WHY EAT PERFECTLY GOOD BAIT?

I would add MAF Cleaning to the list of things to do along with the highest octane gas available, good spark plug wires and frequent Champion Spark Plugs.

Pull the existing plugs out and take a good look at them, you can learn a lot from that perspective free of charge.

I jus don't care to risk the possible damage doing the induction cleaning. It may work fine for some but I would be mad with myself if I tried it and ran into a big problem. I just felt the OP should be aware and if he decides to try it, fine by me.

Happy Trails.
Have to agree with you on this one. Nobody is saying you'll certainly damage your engine but there's a chance something will croak. That $6 miracle in a can could cost you a few grand if you're not careful. Remember, there's a reason hot tanks and induction cleaning tools were invented, because they're the right way to go about it. Taking the top half of your engine off to have it tanked sucks, but taking the whole thing apart because you flooded the cylinders with solvent and locked everything up sucks more. Not blowing smoke you know where, I've had to repair engines that were damaged by stuff like Sea Foam. On the bright side at least we're not talking about the kid who sucked sand through a vacuum port because his buddy told him it would port and polish things.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by adigerol77
There have been as many documented instances of ruining your engine as there are making it 10% better. Google sea foam induction cleaning. You're better off doing the throttle body cleaning, changing your plugs and wires to 8mm and so on.

Is it running rough?
Where have you come up with this information? Dealers and shops have been doing this for over 25 years with only great results. Having been in the service business for nearly 30 years and a administrator of a number of Rover forums, I have never seen one documented case of an engine failing from an induction cleaning.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by s10lowrider1994
Have to agree with you on this one. Nobody is saying you'll certainly damage your engine but there's a chance something will croak. That $6 miracle in a can could cost you a few grand if you're not careful. Remember, there's a reason hot tanks and induction cleaning tools were invented, because they're the right way to go about it. Taking the top half of your engine off to have it tanked sucks, but taking the whole thing apart because you flooded the cylinders with solvent and locked everything up sucks more. Not blowing smoke you know where, I've had to repair engines that were damaged by stuff like Sea Foam. On the bright side at least we're not talking about the kid who sucked sand through a vacuum port because his buddy told him it would port and polish things.
Do you have any idea of what happens when you do an induction cleaning, I doubt it or you would not be throwing out stuff like sucking out your fuel tank or the possibility of hydro locking and engine while the cleaning in being done, where did you dig this stuff up from?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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Mike I was waiting fir you to tear these guys apart. You are why I started seafoaming. I read some posts you wrote and you were 100% right about this stuff. I have used this on my dads Lincoln, Mazda truck and a friends Ford truck and I always feed through the vacuum hose off the master cylinder and they all were a little leery until they drove it after it was done. When I first did it I was only getting 8 mpg but after I was getting 14 mpg. Again Mike thanks for the great info and also thank you for putting theses guys in check...
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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I suspect that since SeaFoam has been around a long time, that back in the day of carbs some fools did just pour the whole can in, engine off, and start it up. You can also get it in gallons, so I'm sure some fool somewhere has poured that whole gallon can in also. If you can read (and you must, since you found this forum), the SeaFoam instructions should not be much of a challenge. Kinda like Loctite, a little goes a long way, and you don't use it on everything.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Right or wrong - I do not do it because the risk outweighs the rewards.
While I agree with Mike in that I have not seen one instance of it causing the engine to hydrolock etc... I ALSO have not seen one single instance of where somebody saw such a marked improvement that I was moved to try it.
And, Savanah - the Google search on other engines that it HAS created issues is what warns me away from taking the risk.
A well cared for Rover, IMHO, benefits WAY more from a throttle body cleaning, plug and wire replacement and Seafoam, or even better, BG44, in the tank.
If the vehicle is running in such a state where this is a "last ditch effort" to gain some semblance of "smooth running" - then, sure. Rock on.
But if you are simply attempting to "keep a good truck running well", I, PERSONALLY, would not go this route.

To each their own - different strokes and all that.

I feel that this is one of those topics that has no "right or wrong", just preference.

Now - bring up pulling the ABS fuse if you REALLY want to see "polarization" over a topic.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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I have seafoamed multiple engines with great results. Not it's not perfect but it cleans things up well and they do run better for me.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Let's do the math on the hydo-lock. The can of Seafoam says induce 1/3 pint into a vac hose that serves all cylinders. Thats about 0.157 liters. Less than any one cylinder in the 4.0 engine. Guess you could do it if you poured in the gallon can.

With respect to other spots on the internet, a somewhat peer reviewed well moderated forum like this beats a bunch of ranting bed wetters any day, for realistic information. Now you can be sure if it was a problem, all the sophisticated owners on this forum are not known for holding back opinions. And I belong to other forums for other cars, just this is the best one for this vehicle.

If SeaFoam killed Cats, everytime some poor owner needed a valve seal or ring job he would be looking at new cats - we don't seem to have an outbreak of that.

Matter of fact, since reading the last couple of posts, I went out and SeaFoamed my F250, drove it 'till it quick smoking, and cruised back home.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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I also belong to other forums for my other vehicles - and agree that I look to those specifically for advice for those vehicles.

And I am not stating that there IS an "issue" <-- matter of fact, I stated that it was/is an unknown.

All I am stating that I do not see the benefit of doing it.

Did Sea-foaming your F250 fix any issue?

To me - it is just not something I CHOOSE to do as it admittedly does not BREAK anything, I have never heard it FIX anything either.

That is all I was trying to say.
 
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