Perhaps someone can help me understand what Rover wants me to do when I do the "steering box tie bar reset".
It says "loosen the three tie bar fixings one complete turn".
In American English, what is a tie bar fixing? Is it the thing that clamps down on the tie bar and keeps the tie rod ends from unscrewing?
Does this mean loosen the clamps on the tie bars on the front and back of the axle? It then says to drive around the shop, doing full lock turns to each side, some sudden stops and some speed bumps.
I can kind of understand what they want here. If they are what I am thinking about it will allow the tie rod ends to find a neutral point before you clamp them down.
It also says to tighten the Panhard Rod mounting arm nut to 110nm. It doesn't tell me to loosen it. I would assume you loosen it at the same time you loosen the tie bar "fixings".
Isn't a fixing something you have with your meat?

It also tells me to "tighten the two fixings tie bar to steering box". WTF is that? Is it the two 12mm bolts on the bottom of the steering box holding the cast piece?

Man, I have looked in Rave but can't find a descriptive picture showing "fixings"

The theory of what they are trying to accomplish here is pretty simple but still, I want to be sure.

Thanks,

 

Remember it was written in the Queens English, alot different than our American English.
What are you trying to do?
We can help if you know what you are trying to accomplish.

 

I am trying to cure a stiff steering condition after doing a steering box replacement. I have taken nearly all of the backlash out but the steering still feels tight. I am going to hook a torque wrench up to the nut on the wheel but I can already tell it is over 4.6nm to turn the wheel with the wheels suspended and the engine off.

Just trying to follow the directions in the RAVE for stiff steering and want to start from the beginning.

Another minor thing is there is still some play when the wheel is on straight ahead. I have adjusted out a lot of it and I know it wasn't there before i did the box replacement.

 

To much back lash will cause loose steering not tight steering.
It has to be in the steering box, if it was fine before but still after, it is in the box.
Or maybe the steering shaft, how are the u-joints on the steering shaft?
If they are seized they will bind and cause hard/stiff steering.

 

The backlash has been adjusted out . . . almost. There is still a very dead on center spot and you have to "steer" it in both directions in and out of a turn. It is stiff with both the boxes I put in. I'll wait for my new clock spring to arrive, I'll install that then go through the entire "stiff steering" diagnosis for my truck per the WSM.
I'll let you guys know what I find.

 

Got my new clock spring installed. No change. Steering still has bad on center feel and it will not auto center. You have to manually steer it back to center unless you are making a 90 degree corner. Only thing changed was steering box(es). Steering effort is way over even my 928. Before the replacement of the steering box(es) it was silky smooth and low effort. I really think it is an adjustment problem.

I did the steering box tie bar reset per the WSM. No change. The steering shaft universal joints are nice and floppy but I lubed them anyway. No change.

Can someone give me a comprehensive rundown on the two adjustment points on the steering box so I can go about resetting the gearbox?

 

Have you messed around with the swivels? Too much swivel pin preload will cause stiff steering. Is the car new to you? If so, could the PO have messed with the swivels?

 

Haven't touched the swivels. Steering box was replaced by me due to horrible leaks. Steering was perfectly smooth and centered as it should with low effort all the way around. Took steering box out, replaced and there was a great deal of free play in the steering box. Adjusted the backlash, steering is stiff and there is still some numbness on center. It is clearly a steering box adjustment issue, just can't seem to nail it down. I know there are two adjuster screws. I need someone with experience with both screws and the adjustments to them to help me out here.

I am not desperate to get the car on the road, it is a 4th vehicle so it is just something I really want to get done and check off my to do list.