Would like to turn discovery into an off road machine
I don't get to use BFG A/Ts in winter because of a transport regulation in Quebec. Winter tires are obligatory between December 15th and March 15th. So any off-road tire is illegal to use in this period unless it has been certified to do so.
A m/t will suck in the snow and ice and rain.
The Cooper S/T is a cross between a a/t and a m/t.
I have them on my truck and they are just now starting to show wear after almost 30k, if I rotated them they would not be showing the wear that they do.
I HATE the BFG a/t with a passion, I have ran them on my work van and I would get stuck if I even looked at a slight incline that had snow or ice on it.
I would just spin.
The S/T's just dig in and bite and away you go.
They also hold up to abuse really really well.
If I got stuck I would just spin them up to 30mph and hold there until they got hot and melted the ice and got traction.
Then if I got stuck again I'd just do ti again.
The BFG's would actually melt if I did that, they only lasted a month or so, the S/T's almost 5 months. (I'm a FedEx driver in West MI if that gives you a idea about the snow we get)
Go to Coopers web site and check them out, I think you'll like them.
The Cooper S/T is a cross between a a/t and a m/t.
I have them on my truck and they are just now starting to show wear after almost 30k, if I rotated them they would not be showing the wear that they do.
I HATE the BFG a/t with a passion, I have ran them on my work van and I would get stuck if I even looked at a slight incline that had snow or ice on it.
I would just spin.
The S/T's just dig in and bite and away you go.
They also hold up to abuse really really well.
If I got stuck I would just spin them up to 30mph and hold there until they got hot and melted the ice and got traction.
Then if I got stuck again I'd just do ti again.
The BFG's would actually melt if I did that, they only lasted a month or so, the S/T's almost 5 months. (I'm a FedEx driver in West MI if that gives you a idea about the snow we get)
Go to Coopers web site and check them out, I think you'll like them.
Tires do not perform the same in similar conditions around the world. There are lots of different types of mud, rocks, sand, gravel, etc. Check your local offroad clubs/gurus and see what they recommend. When I lived in Boise, BFG A/Ts were awesome for everything I did except mud(but I hate mud, so I never drive in it except to get to the trail on the other side). Up here, a M/T will wear quickly on the logging roads, but the A/Ts are too hard for the colder climate on the rocks. My A/Ts got shredded because of the rocks. But the M/Ts grip great on the wet, moss covered rocks. They just wear way too fast.
Check what the local 4X4 clubs are running for the type of trails you want to ride.
Check what the local 4X4 clubs are running for the type of trails you want to ride.
Tires do not perform the same in similar conditions around the world. There are lots of different types of mud, rocks, sand, gravel, etc. Check your local offroad clubs/gurus and see what they recommend. When I lived in Boise, BFG A/Ts were awesome for everything I did except mud(but I hate mud, so I never drive in it except to get to the trail on the other side). Up here, a M/T will wear quickly on the logging roads, but the A/Ts are too hard for the colder climate on the rocks. My A/Ts got shredded because of the rocks. But the M/Ts grip great on the wet, moss covered rocks. They just wear way too fast.
Check what the local 4X4 clubs are running for the type of trails you want to ride.
Check what the local 4X4 clubs are running for the type of trails you want to ride.
I think I am going to give the gaurd dogs a try... I wish I could find the super swamper ltbs in a 32.
I run the BFG KM2 year around and before them ran the KM1. Excellent all around tire to have if you off road a lot as I do whether it be dry or snow. I avoid mud like the Plague but when I have hit mud the BFG MT's did fine. The BFG AT is an excellent tire in all DRY conditions on road or off but they are a terrible WET tire in mud, snow, or even a wet highway. No grip in anything wet. The most popular off road tire around where I live is the KM2 but lots also run Goodyear MT's. The wetter your climate the less you want BFG AT's but if you live in a mainly dry climate with generally little snow much of the year such as much of the lowland Four Corners/Moab area then the BFG AT's work well though.
I run the BFG KM2 year around and before them ran the KM1. Excellent all around tire to have if you off road a lot as I do whether it be dry or snow. I avoid mud like the Plague but when I have hit mud the BFG MT's did fine. The BFG AT is an excellent tire in all DRY conditions on road or off but they are a terrible WET tire in mud, snow, or even a wet highway. No grip in anything wet. The most popular off road tire around where I live is the KM2 but lots also run Goodyear MT's. The wetter your climate the less you want BFG AT's but if you live in a mainly dry climate with generally little snow much of the year such as much of the lowland Four Corners/Moab area then the BFG AT's work well though.
Just curious why you avoid mud like the plague? IS it the clean up afterword that you dislike?.
On a side note, The LTB's in a 32 would be awesome. They kinda suck for on-road driving....loud, wear fast, rough, BUT for off-road they are insane. I have a frined who drives a 84 Toyota, no lift, welded rear end and some 31" LTB's.....he goes absolutely everywhere the big boys go(sans DEEP water). I cannot believe what those tires will pull through. IF I could strictly off -road my disco I'd buy a set of 33" LTB's and tear some shiz up.
Just curious why you avoid mud like the plague? IS it the clean up afterword that you dislike?.
On a side note, The LTB's in a 32 would be awesome. They kinda suck for on-road driving....loud, wear fast, rough, BUT for off-road they are insane. I have a frined who drives a 84 Toyota, no lift, welded rear end and some 31" LTB's.....he goes absolutely everywhere the big boys go(sans DEEP water). I cannot believe what those tires will pull through. IF I could strictly off -road my disco I'd buy a set of 33" LTB's and tear some shiz up.
On a side note, The LTB's in a 32 would be awesome. They kinda suck for on-road driving....loud, wear fast, rough, BUT for off-road they are insane. I have a frined who drives a 84 Toyota, no lift, welded rear end and some 31" LTB's.....he goes absolutely everywhere the big boys go(sans DEEP water). I cannot believe what those tires will pull through. IF I could strictly off -road my disco I'd buy a set of 33" LTB's and tear some shiz up.
I don't like tearing trails and roads up. There are too many people around here and many other places that like to go out mudding and really tear up and rut the trails plus often end up going off trail and doing a lot of damage in the wet muck. Just plays right into the people that want to close so many trails so many places. I always try and tread as lightly as possible. Doesn't mean I don't get in to muddy conditions ever but I try and not go out in muddy conditions. I certainly don't mind going out in wet rocky terrain in the mountains as no damage is caused but we have a lot of adobe land in the west and the trails and land are easily torn to shreds if it is wet. Awful lot of antiwheeling people watching everything we do plus the BLM and FS are increasingly closing anything that has been damaged or could be damaged by careless wheeling. I was out south of Montrose in the last day or 2 after recent rains and some wheelers had deliberately been out in the mud and caused some real tough damage both on the adobe soil trails and had spun out into some pristine land just off the trails too. I was pretty pissed off to see the deliberate damage they had done. We have to tread as lightly as possible or we will lose much of our wheeling heritage to the antiwheeling groups. Sometimes when I see some of the off roading damage I want to shoot whomever did it because they are ruining my enjoyment and ruining it for everyone else.


