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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 06:36 AM
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Consider a budget, because even though most parts are pretty cheap, they add up quick.
I have over $3k in parts rebuilding my 4.6
Picture a woodstove, and a wheelbarrow full of cash.
Now, start shoveling the cash into the fire...that's a D2.
It's Really Easy to go down the rabbit hole on these, plan accordingly.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 10:14 AM
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Yea but when they work even decently well they are so rewarding, especially off pavement.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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Just to give you an idea, for my daily driver, I am about $15K into the car easy. That does not count my time.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 11:01 AM
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For some contrast I'm at about $4,550 and that includes 2 trucks (one with a shot frame). My daily has 5 brand new 265/65-18 Wranglers, a freshened 4.6L with all new gaskets/pumps, radiator and greasable front driveshaft, and fluids throughout. Aside from the tires and Wilderness rack it's cosmetically stock. At this point everything in the truck works as it should inside and out, with the exception of the Hi/Lo and Diff Lock switches in the TC. My time is a considerable investment in my happiness, I love this ****.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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Agree with Ahab about the happiness factor. Disco's are projects that keep on giving (headaches and rewards)
Agree w/Choodles on cost.....
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 02:26 PM
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I always tell noobs that you should have a maintenance budget/fund of $2000 per year on a D2 if you have all the work done at shops. That includes wearable items like tires, brakes, suspension, etc.

Speaking as a 13 year/200k mile owner I can personally vouch for that amount of maintenance on average. There will be years you don't need to spend anything then head gaskets or cracked block comes up and bingo... you are back on the average.

Of course doing your own work will cut the cost significantly but the maintenance issues will still be there.

 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by XRAD
Agree with Ahab about the happiness factor. Disco's are projects that keep on giving (headaches and rewards)
Agree w/Choodles on cost.....
Happiness is a big factor for me. There is also a reason why some cars with, let's just say "average" reliability, have cult following. The more work you put into the car the more you love it. The logic applies to pretty much anything you work on. That's why I like older cars, gardening etc.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by entjohnson
Well....had a heart to heart today with my son and he says he's in. Hard to sell it with a known major leak, so either we end up with a running vehicle or we find out its time to part it out and take our losses. I'm thinking about waiting to order anything until after we get it apart since it will likely take some effort to clean everything up and get the heads checked.

I truly appreciate all the advice and info. To be honest, I probably would not have even considered taking this on except for the wealth of knowledge in this forum and willingness of the members here to help each other as well as the newbies out.

I'll let you know how it goes, we are planning to start taking it down this weekend.

Next question: Is there anything else we should plan to take care of while we have it down (assuming it goes well)? Going back through the receipts again, I don't see where the water pump, timing chain or oil pump have been touched. Although it looks like the valve covers may have been worked on at 20k and 37k miles which seems a bit troublesome.
Before you take it apart, check the oil pressure using a test kit (google it or check my previous post). If the oil pressure is to spec, you don't need to do oil pump. If the truck has less than 150k, you don't need a timing chain. I would replace every non-metallic component in the cooling system if your son is going to drive it. Have him check the coolant level every saturday morning before he starts the truck once you are finished. Do your best to not disconnect the oil and transmission coolers, message me for details. Clean the rocker arm post oil passages, they will be sludged up. Tape all the wiring, and replace the damaged looms. Check the idler pulleys as you are taking it apart, if you can feel ANY wiggle, replace them. Make sure you do the PCV mod, I recommend the inline thermostat mod. Undo the exhaust manifold bolts from the pipes before you remove the manifolds, then put them back with the nuts on the studs one turn before bolting to the heads. Much easier that way. Buy some kroil and put on the exhaust pipe studs/nuts for several days before removal so they don't snap. When you loosen them, work them back and forth if they are tight, don't just try to straight unscrew unless they come off easy.

I have posted complete PM and normal failure list several times, I recommend you look them up.

Keep asking questions.

Preventative maintenance is much easier and cheaper than repairs. Planned repairs for items than cannot be prevented will be cheaper than last minute emergencies.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 07:07 PM
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+1 for Mr. Choodles, I lost track of the amount I've spent on mine. lol. Although it is very rewarding when they are running well, it still costs...
 
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ahab
Yes, yes, and yes. The cost of the parts is minimal. Valve covers can be difficult to get seated correctly, and a gummed up crankcase breather will exacerbate the problem. Shouldn't be a concern. Congrats on deciding to forge ahead. If nothing else, should you decide to part ways with the truck at least you'll do it after going to the mat with it. Mano a mano, the man in the black pajamas, worthy effing adversary and all that. If you conquer this truck you will be rewarded with a sense of accomplishment unlike many others. Discos seem to be pretty tolerant of first timers and not complicated in the grand scheme of things. This should turn out to be a pretty good adventure for the two of you. Take your time, read A LOT, ask a LOT of questions and you'll be fine. The stuff I have read on this site makes me think monkeys could fix these things. If I didn't know better I'd say they put them together in the first place.

Oh, and if you haven't yet, get a copy of the RAVE, the Electrical Library and the ETM. Both of you should read them every day. Read about what's coming up, reread what you've already done, read what you don't envision ever doing.

After thinking about this some more, I think the BEST advice I can give you is to have your son get an account here on the forum. Get him asking the questions and interacting with the braintrust. I've seen this happen a couple times on BMW forums. It will empower him and change his world in more ways than one. Force him (gently) to use his own brain while you hang back and let him front-end this thing. You be the guidance out in the garage behind the actual wrench turning. Repeatedly dragging him out there to play second fiddle to your program will play out in a completely different way, and not necessarily in a good one.
Truly appreciate the wisdom here. Hopefully you will see a new member with the same problem pop up here soon!
 
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