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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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Zero death wobble, and my wheels are darn close to dead even side to side = visually no difference. You can always get an adjustable front track bar.

If it would cause issues driving = I wouldn't do it! Re-gear would be for larger tires. Even with a 3inch lift I run 31.5-32.0 inch tires. I don't want to stress out the axle shafts.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 03:48 PM
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Oh, I forgot about side to side, that too. I was talking about when the uncorrected (stock) Radius arms cause the wheels to be un-centered in the wells after lifting, front to back, which makes too much negative caster in front. Like this:

This looks like more than 3" but it shows what I'm talking about; that neg.caster in front is what I've found to be the cause of death wobble (aside of slop in steering components). Plus, it just looks odd..
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wjsj69
I'm happy with 2" and 31" tires, hoping things will hold up better over time, and not having the budget to change diff ratios and upgrade axles with taller tires.

Do you guys with 3" lifts use corrected radius arms? If not, are your wheels noticeably off-center in the wheel wells? And do you ever get death wobble? Those were concerns I had when I decided on 2", over 3" as well.

Years ago I had a 1978 F150 with a 4" lift, and it had a similar front suspension to ours. I didn't know any better, and the radius arms weren't corrected or lowered as they should have been, and I got death wobble all the time. I also had an '02 budget-lifted Grand Cherokee with the same problem. It keeps me conservative now! : )
I’ve never experienced the death wobble, my truck tracks as true as my wife’s new GX460. My wheels are dead center, no corrected radius arms. I don’t hear much about the death wobble with rovers. I see jeeps and grand chErokees doing that every now and then.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 12:59 AM
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Death Wobble is almost always caused by shot bushings, and not a little shot. I drove a R50 Pathfinder prior my Disco, when the trailing arm bushings start to go you go physically feel in the corners,enough so that you know something is wrong. To get death wobble the rubber in the bushing had to be pretty much completely gone, never had it but, I replaced those trailing arm bushings twice in 7 years.

I would imagine the same issue exists on Disco's, as the rubber is goes in the radius arm bushings you get bad behaviour
 
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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank4

Go 3”
I didn't realize you added pics until just now. Thank you for that. After sitting on my *** for a few weeks, and the cost of return shipping, plus additional time to receive the new OME 2" lift. I'm going to stick with the 3" TF lift that I originally purchased. Just going to make sure I add a steel rear bumper and voyager rack to try and weigh this down a bit.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank4


Go 3”!
3”
Great looking rig. Thank you.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank4
Go with the 3”. I’ve been running RTE 3” coils for 5 years with ZERO issues and ZERO setting and I have a lot of heavy stuff on mine. I never extended brake lines or adjusted angles. I’ve always kept my driveshaft and rotoflex in order but really you should do that on a bone stock truck anyway.

Another bonus of the 3” is that it’s 1000x more versatile than the 2”. The tire and bumper options are wide open. Install a 2” and then later decide you want 33” tires? Tough titty, man. You have to go up to a 3” lift if you don’t want to do any serious hacking on your stock bumper.

Now RTE has fallen out of favor on this forum as of late, I believe there was a change in ownership and possible quality issues ? I am sure someone will chime in and refresh my memory. My RTE’s are pre ownership change and they have been great.
Wait, I thought you could only do 32.5 max (265/75/16) with a 3"?
I got the TF 3" in the L8 black Friday sale for my D2. The above size is what I'm shopping...I can go bigger?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 07:28 PM
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I run 265/75R16 with the TF 2inch MD kit on my 02 Kalahari. My 99 & 04 with 3inch lifts are running 275/65R18’s. You could run a little bigger, but I prefer not to stress my diff’s and axles out.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscoBuckeye
Wait, I thought you could only do 32.5 max (265/75/16) with a 3"?
I got the TF 3" in the L8 black Friday sale for my D2. The above size is what I'm shopping...I can go bigger?

I run BFG AT’s 275/70-18 (33.2in) with 3” lift. Zero issues but I do have an ARB up front. Stock bumper would be pretty close.
 
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