Time to Rebuild Bottom End
#21
You have two things at play - your original problem of oil pressure and engine shake vs. rebuilding the engine. If you want to rebuild just remove the motor and do it right. If you are trying to solve the original problem take it one step at a time and get some pressure readings. The engine vibration could be almost anything (misfire, motor mount, drive shaft, injector, etc) and most likely nothing to do with engine bearings.
#22
4 days.
4 days to pull the motor. OMG some of those bolts that mate the engine to the transmission were Grinches.
Now, some of you pro mechanics probably have air tools and all of the bends/joints and can pull these Rover motors in a few hours.
I can see that.
...but I'm an amatuer and it took me 4 days. Plus, my overhead light went out in my hangar so the actual Lift and move of the cherry picker was by car headlights.
Oy vey.
Anyway...now that I've done it I could probably pull it out again in 2 days using only hand tools again. There is a learning curve. Ouch.
Next month I'll start the teardown and begin ordering parts as I get the motor apart and discover all of its problems.
Wow!
I'm seriously regretting *NOT* leaving the motor in the Disco and just dropping the oil pan and front cover to replace bearings and oil pump.
Maybe... maybe I'll find something in the teardown that justifies all of this work to pull the motor out.
Well, at least it is out. The teardown should be easy since nothing will be in my way.
Anyone have a line on a decent performance cam?!
4 days to pull the motor. OMG some of those bolts that mate the engine to the transmission were Grinches.
Now, some of you pro mechanics probably have air tools and all of the bends/joints and can pull these Rover motors in a few hours.
I can see that.
...but I'm an amatuer and it took me 4 days. Plus, my overhead light went out in my hangar so the actual Lift and move of the cherry picker was by car headlights.
Oy vey.
Anyway...now that I've done it I could probably pull it out again in 2 days using only hand tools again. There is a learning curve. Ouch.
Next month I'll start the teardown and begin ordering parts as I get the motor apart and discover all of its problems.
Wow!
I'm seriously regretting *NOT* leaving the motor in the Disco and just dropping the oil pan and front cover to replace bearings and oil pump.
Maybe... maybe I'll find something in the teardown that justifies all of this work to pull the motor out.
Well, at least it is out. The teardown should be easy since nothing will be in my way.
Anyone have a line on a decent performance cam?!
#23
4 days.
4 days to pull the motor. OMG some of those bolts that mate the engine to the transmission were Grinches.
Now, some of you pro mechanics probably have air tools and all of the bends/joints and can pull these Rover motors in a few hours.
I can see that.
...but I'm an amatuer and it took me 4 days. Plus, my overhead light went out in my hangar so the actual Lift and move of the cherry picker was by car headlights.
Oy vey.
Anyway...now that I've done it I could probably pull it out again in 2 days using only hand tools again. There is a learning curve. Ouch.
Next month I'll start the teardown and begin ordering parts as I get the motor apart and discover all of its problems.
Wow!
I'm seriously regretting *NOT* leaving the motor in the Disco and just dropping the oil pan and front cover to replace bearings and oil pump.
Maybe... maybe I'll find something in the teardown that justifies all of this work to pull the motor out.
Well, at least it is out. The teardown should be easy since nothing will be in my way.
Anyone have a line on a decent performance cam?!
4 days to pull the motor. OMG some of those bolts that mate the engine to the transmission were Grinches.
Now, some of you pro mechanics probably have air tools and all of the bends/joints and can pull these Rover motors in a few hours.
I can see that.
...but I'm an amatuer and it took me 4 days. Plus, my overhead light went out in my hangar so the actual Lift and move of the cherry picker was by car headlights.
Oy vey.
Anyway...now that I've done it I could probably pull it out again in 2 days using only hand tools again. There is a learning curve. Ouch.
Next month I'll start the teardown and begin ordering parts as I get the motor apart and discover all of its problems.
Wow!
I'm seriously regretting *NOT* leaving the motor in the Disco and just dropping the oil pan and front cover to replace bearings and oil pump.
Maybe... maybe I'll find something in the teardown that justifies all of this work to pull the motor out.
Well, at least it is out. The teardown should be easy since nothing will be in my way.
Anyone have a line on a decent performance cam?!
If you replace the cam bearings yourself I would sure like to know exactly how you did it, with pics and videos please! I watched a youtube video in that subject and the process looked pretty medieval.
#24
Search for Dusty and cam. Or Charlie V and cam. There are two favorite cams for a mild performance and I got the one Dusty recommended. Until I destroyed that engine it worked pretty good.
If you replace the cam bearings yourself I would sure like to know exactly how you did it, with pics and videos please! I watched a youtube video in that subject and the process looked pretty medieval.
If you replace the cam bearings yourself I would sure like to know exactly how you did it, with pics and videos please! I watched a youtube video in that subject and the process looked pretty medieval.
#26
So Crower's 53229 seems to list 258hp: https://www.crower.com/media/masterc...ex.html?page=1 for $275
RPI seems to have a Torque Max camshaft: RPi Engineering - V8 Engine and Component List
RPI seems to have a Torque Max camshaft: RPi Engineering - V8 Engine and Component List
#27
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Personally, I never get jerked up about time anymore...heck...it's the only thing that's free anymore.
Actually, my eyes read 4 hours...when reading your post about pulling engine. Thought, "damn, that ain't bad at all, what's he complaining about?" Then I re-read. 4 days ain't bad either, if you are working on it after work or sporadically or have minimal mechanical skills. Heck, I've been a mechanic for forty years now...and it probably took me 4 days after work getting my wife's rover engine out. After wrenching all day, sometimes I can only get a few hours of motivation out of this body for more.
Anyhow...
Good job getting it out. Now, take your time rebuilding and look everything over twice or three times. No sense rushing something as important as this.
Brian.
Actually, my eyes read 4 hours...when reading your post about pulling engine. Thought, "damn, that ain't bad at all, what's he complaining about?" Then I re-read. 4 days ain't bad either, if you are working on it after work or sporadically or have minimal mechanical skills. Heck, I've been a mechanic for forty years now...and it probably took me 4 days after work getting my wife's rover engine out. After wrenching all day, sometimes I can only get a few hours of motivation out of this body for more.
Anyhow...
Good job getting it out. Now, take your time rebuilding and look everything over twice or three times. No sense rushing something as important as this.
Brian.
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No Doubt (12-24-2017)
#28
So Crower's 53229 seems to list 258hp: https://www.crower.com/media/masterc...ex.html?page=1 for $275
RPI seems to have a Torque Max camshaft: RPi Engineering - V8 Engine and Component List
RPI seems to have a Torque Max camshaft: RPi Engineering - V8 Engine and Component List
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No Doubt (12-24-2017)
#30
How good is the Crower 53229 camshaft?
Is there a noticeable, useable power gain?
Any improvement in mileage?
I have done alot of searching and reading, but can't find a definate answer.
I'm about to do a rebuild on an 04, 4.6
I can get a new Lucky8 cam (which I'm fine with) for around $80.
Or, spend over 3 times as much for the Crower.
I'm on a tight budget, and have a good engine.
I don't want to spend another $200 that I can use elsewhere.
Some engines respond great to a mild cam.
Others, a cam does nothing without other parts, exhaust, FI tune, ect.
So I am unsure if the cam is worth it.
I also don't want to regret not doing it.
Can anyone that has used this cam definately say it's worth it? Without just assuming it's better because it has a different duration?
Thank you for any advice.
Is there a noticeable, useable power gain?
Any improvement in mileage?
I have done alot of searching and reading, but can't find a definate answer.
I'm about to do a rebuild on an 04, 4.6
I can get a new Lucky8 cam (which I'm fine with) for around $80.
Or, spend over 3 times as much for the Crower.
I'm on a tight budget, and have a good engine.
I don't want to spend another $200 that I can use elsewhere.
Some engines respond great to a mild cam.
Others, a cam does nothing without other parts, exhaust, FI tune, ect.
So I am unsure if the cam is worth it.
I also don't want to regret not doing it.
Can anyone that has used this cam definately say it's worth it? Without just assuming it's better because it has a different duration?
Thank you for any advice.