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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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There are 4 bolts hold on the coil packs. 2 up top and 2 down low. The SAI pipe goes on the top of the coil pack and is secured by the top 2 bolts.

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I am 95% sure these are the bolts (M6x12mm):
FLANGE SCREW M6 x 12mm, RND768, FS106127L - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

part #4 in this diagram
http://www.roversnorth.com/Land-Rover-Parts/630
 
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 08:28 PM
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Thanks Jared9220, will see if I can get similar ones at Advanced tomorrow.

This is the update so far...

I was able to replace all spark plugs and wires except for 7 & 8, I just cannot get my tools in there with the SAI pipes there, so if anyone knows which tools I can use it'll be very much appreciated. I'm uploading a group of photos showing 7 & 8 spark plugs for you guys to have a better view.

As per the loose coil packs, I'm also uploading a photo so you guys can have a look of how it is. I found the mounting bracket in the back, now I know what that metal thingy was for, I'm gonna give it a try and see if I can get it mounted correctly, or at least mount the coil packs there and give them better stability in there.

As a bonus, I'm uploading a pic for you guys to give me any feedback, that'll be the fourth pic. Also, if you see anything in the pics that I should look further into, please feel free to do so, thanks in advance!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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you should be able to get the spark plugs with a universal joint connected to the spark plug socket. I would do this: ratchet> 6" extension> Universal Joint> Spark Plug Socket


The coil pack looked liked someone did a half a$$ repair job to say the least. I'm curious what other jobs they attempted and didn't do correctly. If you have the bracket already then I would put it back on so you can secure the coil packs and SAI pipes correctly.

The 2 bottom bolts for the coil pack bracket are hard to get into place. A little TIP: I used a little RTV on the head of the bolt to hold the bolt into the socket while I slipped it carefully down into position.

The 4th picture looks like you have a leaking throttle body heater.
You can either replace the throttle body heater: (Only $29)
Throttle Body Heater : Throttle Body Heater


Or you can bypass the throttle body heater altogether with a U shaped hose connector:


 

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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 07:42 AM
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"I" would take the twenty minute to remove the upper intake, so that you can re-install things correctly. and order a throttle body heater kit like Jared suggested.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drowssap
"I" would take the twenty minute to remove the upper intake, so that you can re-install things correctly. and order a throttle body heater kit like Jared suggested.
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Thanks for the recommendation DROWSSAP, I'm sure that it is the way to go, but truth be told I'm a bit "unsure/afraid" to remove all that and then coming up with new probs that I may not be able to solve myself, what are the scenarios I may come across when I remove the "UPPER INTAKE"? would I need some new part when putting everything back together? I mean, I'm sure is something I can do, even with so little mechanical knowledge that I have, I know how to follow instructions and pretty much am a methodical person, maybe all I need is a confidence boost! ;-]#
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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remove the bolts from the intake (like 10 or 12), disconnected the hoses the throttle body heater (it need to be replaced anyway) and just slide the manifold out of your way.
no need to remove it from the engine bay, only disconnect enough to move it (maybe a wire or two) when your done flip the old upper intake gasket over and reuse it.
It really isn't that hard if you look at it and remove only what is need, Some people disconnect throttle cable, brackets, every wire there is no need. all you want to do is be able slide the manifold a couple inches.
 
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Originally Posted by drowssap
remove the bolts from the intake (like 10 or 12), disconnected the hoses the throttle body heater (it need to be replaced anyway) and just slide the manifold out of your way.
no need to remove it from the engine bay, only disconnect enough to move it (maybe a wire or two) when your done flip the old upper intake gasket over and reuse it.
It really isn't that hard if you look at it and remove only what is need, Some people disconnect throttle cable, brackets, every wire there is no need. all you want to do is be able slide the manifold a couple inches.
True that! It don't seem that hard of a job, and the tip with the gasket is a, helluva good one, one of the reason I was putting that aside is waiting for the new one now that I'm on this.

Two more things, I can't figure out how to remove those "clamps" from the hoses? ...as per the "throttle body heater", if I use the "U" thingy what will I be bypassing, I mean, is there for a reason [dunno which though] and is there a particular size "U" thsat I should get.

Anyways, I'll review the whole thing right after I finish installing a hard drive in my girlfriend's computer, thanks for the support and the help!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by drowssap
remove the bolts from the intake (like 10 or 12), disconnected the hoses the throttle body heater (it need to be replaced anyway) and just slide the manifold out of your way.
no need to remove it from the engine bay, only disconnect enough to move it (maybe a wire or two) when your done flip the old upper intake gasket over and reuse it.
It really isn't that hard if you look at it and remove only what is need, Some people disconnect throttle cable, brackets, every wire there is no need. all you want to do is be able slide the manifold a couple inches.
He has SAI and it makes taking the upper off more difficult. You have to remove the SAI pipes that go in the heads and if you have never removed them before they can be tough to break loose without twisting the pipes and cracking them.

It's not a super hard job if you have done it before but it will give you headaches your first attempt. I hate my SAI I wish I could remove it altogether without the check engine light coming on. Plus all of the components really take up a lot of space in the engine bay.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared9220
He has SAI and it makes taking the upper off more difficult. You have to remove the SAI pipes that go in the heads and if you have never removed them before they can be tough to break loose without twisting the pipes and cracking them.

It's not a super hard job if you have done it before but it will give you headaches your first attempt. I hate my SAI I wish I could remove it altogether without the check engine light coming on. Plus all of the components really take up a lot of space in the engine bay.
True that too! I have SAI and that's the other reason I've bypass that removal, coz I've read that in many cases they twist and break! Decisions... decisions...
 
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Thanks Guys! ...finally was able to pull out the last two spark plugs with Jared9220's tool tips... tomorrow I'll tackle the loose coil pack issue, already bought the missing screws, but even though I want to take off the UPPER to do it, I'm gonna try and work with the little room I now have. I have three things in my favor: small hands, lots of patience and your tips! hopefully it'll be done by the end of the day, don't have anything else to do! LOL.

I'm attaching two set of pics of the spark plugs, the first are from the LH (1,3,5 & 7), and the other one from the RH (8,6,4 & 2)... some were cracked and one even broke inside the plug as I was taking it out. Let me know if you guys can give any feedback from looking at them, thanks a bunch! ;-]#
 
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