Whining Noise from Engine. Unable to Isolate
Good way to check alt, ac clutch and pulleys is to remove the belt and spin them by hand. If going bad you can normally feel or hear them with the hand spinning. If bearing not trashed you can grease the pulley bearing by first removing pulley, using a small pick to remove the bearing seals, using a needle fitting on your grease gun and reinstalling seals. Replacement sealed bearings for the idler pulleys are also available and easily replaced if you have the tools.
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Remove the belt and spin each pulley...feeling for roughness, drag or binding. Listen as you spin each one, too.
While the belt is off...start it up (for a short period of time, don't let it over heat) and see if there is no noise. If there is still a noise...you may want to reinvestigate your oil pump work.
Brian.
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An easy way I've used grease to check tensioner/idler pulleys is to spray white lithium grease on bearing while hot (after running engine, spray with engine off) and allow to cool. During cool down, the warm bearing will draw in the sprayed on grease. Subsequent start up may show a change in noise.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
My bet is that the added tension created noise from the idler. The new alternator did not change the noise.
An easy way I've used grease to check tensioner/idler pulleys is to spray white lithium grease on bearing while hot (after running engine, spray with engine off) and allow to cool. During cool down, the warm bearing will draw in the sprayed on grease. Subsequent start up may show a change in noise.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
An easy way I've used grease to check tensioner/idler pulleys is to spray white lithium grease on bearing while hot (after running engine, spray with engine off) and allow to cool. During cool down, the warm bearing will draw in the sprayed on grease. Subsequent start up may show a change in noise.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
So I took the belt off and ran the motor and had no noise.
I stopped into Land Rover and they quickly identified a bad bearing in the Alternator. So I took out an alternator with a bad bearing and replaced it with an alternator with a bad bearing. What are the odds?
The End!
I stopped into Land Rover and they quickly identified a bad bearing in the Alternator. So I took out an alternator with a bad bearing and replaced it with an alternator with a bad bearing. What are the odds?
The End!
So I just put in a brand new Ultima alternator. Guess what? It still whines!!!!
Metal to ear trick still tells me its the alternator. Interestingly a notice came with the new unit that says a tight tension pulley and serpentine can cause the noise.
The removal of the serpentine did make the noise go away but now I'm going to remove it, again, pull all the Idlers, again, and grease all the bearings, again.
Likely to go insane shortly. HAHA!
Metal to ear trick still tells me its the alternator. Interestingly a notice came with the new unit that says a tight tension pulley and serpentine can cause the noise.
The removal of the serpentine did make the noise go away but now I'm going to remove it, again, pull all the Idlers, again, and grease all the bearings, again.
Likely to go insane shortly. HAHA!
Removing just the belt to access the pulleys/idlers and not the the new alt I assume. While off check them all by hand/ear again. It's also a good idea to remove your fan/clutch to easily rotate H2O pump pulley to eliminate it.
A semi-effect way to grease the pulley/idler bearings is to use a small pick or scribe, remove the grease seals and use a grease gun w/needle. If done carefully and the bearings aren't ancient the seals will usually go back in sans damage. The ac clutch pulley can also be removed and bearing greased.
After doing mine last year read a thread here that cautioned against using typical grease you may have laying around. Electric motor grease was recommended and found a Mobil product. Mobil Polyrex EM, Electric Motor Bearing Grease 105330.
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