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Old 07-07-2019, 05:40 PM
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Hello from Lakeland Florida . A few years ago we got a 1998 Land Rover Discovery On one day the rover engine would die whenmaking a right turn it did it anout four times, no codes and would not repeat during testing.
After a few days it would not stay running at all, Wife's dailly driver, and I was out of town , but ran across a 1999 Land Rover Discovery ran good and in pretty good shape, So we got the 1999 her new car, I did get
back to the 1998 and relpaced the crank sensor and crank sensor wires , plus the fuel pump , all seems to be goos to go. then about a week ago the 1999 Rover did not want to run it would start then die not stay
running, no codes. I unpluged the Mas air sensor and it would start and run poorly. So replaced the Mas air sensor with a new one all seened ok. Made a couple of trios one about 60 miles and one abouit 20 mlies, all good.
The the other day went to take it , the 1999, to store and just made it out of the driveway and it dyed. No codes, I found this
https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/86-th...m-spider-post/, Symptoms of this failure are typically an intermittent non-start or cutting out while driving (or both), which usually gets progressively worse until it
is happening very regularly. Typically you will find that leaving the vehicle from a few minutes to a few hours will allow it to be started, only for the fault to repeat later on. So now I have taken the dash all apart
and did not find the Engine Immobilisation Control Unit (Spider) (Z271). I am at he monent somewhat at a loss, In hopes the some of you one of you may have already solved this and can help me out. I have come to like the
rovers and will at some time find the answer. Thanks guys and gals for reading my Woes

 
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Old 07-07-2019, 05:43 PM
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Sounds like a failing CPS (Crank Position Sensor) to me
 
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Old 07-07-2019, 05:53 PM
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I replaced the Crank position Sensor when the other Rover that is one year old stopped working, figuring only one year apart it would be next,
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:26 AM
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Do any of yo know of a different location of the Engine Immobilization Control Unit (Spider) ? Or maybe this 1999 dose not have one ?
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ponaldpe
Do any of yo know of a different location of the Engine Immobilization Control Unit (Spider) ? Or maybe this 1999 dose not have one ?
American trucks dont have those
 
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:12 AM
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Well with no security immobilization on this Rover , I am back to the Crank Sensor. To me that is the only thing that makes since. So after I get every thing back together I will change the crank sensor back. It was not acting up with the old one I changed it as a preventive measure , because the other Rover's crank sensor stopped working . The 1998 one year older seemed like a good idea at the time. What are the odds of the new crank sensor going bad in a few weeks?
 
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:04 PM
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may not be the sensor itself ....but maybe the wiring harness to it.....they get hot / old/ and brittle....sometimes the the insulation on the wires just bakes and falls off.....could cause a short or no signal
 
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Originally Posted by XCELLER8
may not be the sensor itself ....but maybe the wiring harness to it.....they get hot / old/ and brittle....sometimes the the insulation on the wires just bakes and falls off.....could cause a short or no signal
Yes I aware of how the wires do the other Rover wires came apart when I touched them. This Rover wires are ok, .The crank sensor, this Rover
will run with the Mass Air Sensor is disconnected , so I am start to think that it might be the wires between the MAS and the ECU or
the ECU . I have replaced the MAS with no change and good voltage to the MAS
 
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