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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 07:18 PM
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Thanks for this, this is great! What tool do you have?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Y8HLS33/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Y8HLS33/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Today it saved me money again, I used it to program a new key FOB.
 

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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 09:12 PM
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paulblake, can you post pics of the ride calibration section? Thats a very unusual feature for a device like that since its very specific too Rovers. Would like to see how they have it set up.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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paulblake, can you post pics of the ride calibration section? That's a very unusual feature for a device like that since its very specific too Rovers. Would like to see how they have it set up.
Sorry, I ended up returning the device. but basically it walked you through a calibration. It would tell you what to do step by step. It would warn you that you need to have the LR on level ground with less than a 3-degree slope in any direction. Also, it would tell you to fix all issues and make sure there were no faults. Then it would tell you to start the car. Next, it would level the car and said something about opening a cross articulation valve ( or something like that) (the vehicle would visibly level at this point). It also gave some warning about how the process would turn the red EAS light on during the calibration and that it would be turned off at the end. Then it would bring you to the input screen where you entered the values of the 4 heights in millimeters. The next step after entering the values would be its calibration. After I entered the values in millimeters it would always fail the calibration.

I think that the use of the real-world values is where the designers of the Foxwell have gone wrong. It seems like every other tool simply allows you to input the arbitrary numbers that represent something to the LR's computer. It seems like from what I have seen on youtube that the best way to get it right is to just play with those numbers, but i am waiting to recieve my new tool in the mail for now.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2K
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Today it saved me money again, I used it to program a new key FOB.
Wow, this seems too good to be true. I have a friend who has a traditional Autel scanner. We tried it but it doesn't have that advanced of options. It reads all the air suspension codes, but I cannot calibrate or do anything quite that fancy.

So just to be clear, you can calibrate the air suspension and program keys with this?? If so can you post some screenshots?
 

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Old Aug 4, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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We aren't "probably" right, we are 100% right. That is where the "Cross Articulation" Fault is coming from. It doesn't mean there aren't other things potentially happening but the calibration is what's dropping you down at speed and also may be why your compressor is working harder. I'd fix it sooner rather than later.
Okay, I'll take your word for it. I appreciate your advice. I'm just waiting on my new tool to arrive in the mail. Don't get mad at me, but I thought I would try RWS solutions. I want the iidtool, but I can't afford that right now.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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I ain't mad atchya....some people have to learn the hard way, and that's okay. It's your journey.

People have used the RSW tool before. I'm not sure how good or bad they are....hopefully enough people on this forum have one such that you can get some help if needed. As for that Autel...I really can't imagine it being able to calibrate the EAS or do much else besides read codes. Something is fishy there.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by paulblake
Wow, this seems too good to be true. I have a friend who has a traditional Autel scanner. We tried it but it doesn't have that advanced of options. It reads all the air suspension codes, but I cannot calibrate or do anything quite that fancy.

So just to be clear, you can calibrate the air suspension and program keys with this?? If so can you post some screenshots?
I know exactly what you're thinking, I thought the same thing. Honestly, I can't even take credit. Believe it or not, my wife found this tool....."GASP". I told her "there's no way in hell some $60 dollar tool does calibration and key programming etc., maybe it just reads that info". When it showed up, all I could say was, "wow, hell of a good find, saved us hundreds".

I'll plug it in tonight or tomorrow and show you some screen shots of the interface. It's got a pretty thorough diagnostic side as well as what it calls a "service" side which would be what you're wanting to use.

What's fishy is that we don't all use this tool instead of some $539 dollar tool. Maybe there's SOME function it doesn't do or doesn't do as cleanly but for everything I see folks talking about, it does it. I've got my new programmed key in front of me right now and I drove it today using it, locked the doors, even programmed the 3rd button to unlock the tailgate.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 11:53 PM
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...have you actually done an EAS Calibration with it?
...can you save a raised or lowered EAS setting with it?
...I won't even ask about CCF stuff.

Hey programming a key is a win! You made your money back right there. Calling it "fishy" isn't a call-out directed at you; I'm sure it says that, the Foxwell does too. If you haven't actually done it, then that **** is just words.

Anyway....rant over.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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Alright, So I have a little bit of an update for you guys. In summary, I calibrated the truck and I am still getting the same issue...
The details:

The RSW Solutions tool arrived today. It was really simple to get working and I have no arguments against the software. it seems to work smoothly. Yet, the calibration is not as straight-forward/guided as it is on the Foxwell or the Autel AP200. Yet, did order an AP200 (with one-day shipping from Amazon Prime) and it is an amazing tool for the money. It can do all the same things as the Foxwell could. The problem I have with the AP200 seems to be Bluetooth related. I cannot get through a calibration without the tool disconnecting from my phone via Bluetooth.
Therefore, the fact remains that the RSW tool has actually been able to '"calibrate" my air suspension whereas the other 2 have not. As a side note, I may try to get another AP200 tool as it has a lot of features that I like in a scanner for other vehicles I work on (in case it is just a defect with the one I got). Also, it kind of fills the gaps in the RSW solutions software.

Alright, I will move away from tools and focus on the problem. I have now adjusted the suspension with the RSW to be very close to level side to side, but not front to back (~19" in front ~20" in back). One thing that is interesting is that when using the RSW to calibrate is that it does not put the vehicle into calibration mode as the other 2 scanners did. RWS solutions video just says to set the truck to 'normal' height and then measure. After each adjustment, I would lower and then raise the suspension and found that driving the truck a couple of meters forward and then back helped to get things to the set height. After doing this and getting it to be very close to the values I noted above I test drove it and I still get the same result as before. Around 40 mph I get an air suspension error. the only code I got at that point was for cross-articulation. So, maybe I am just not calibrating correctly... I don't understand why I would be getting an error code if everything is good and the sensors are now calibrated so that selecting normal height gives me a level ride.

So any tips on how to calibrate with the RSW?
Do I need to aim for a certain ride height when the vehicle is set to "normal"?
Should I put the truck into tight tolerances mode for the calibration?
Have I thoroughly annoyed all you IIDtool owners yet? Or am I just annoying myself...
 

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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by paulblake
Alright, So I have a little bit of an update for you guys. In summary, I calibrated the truck and I am still getting the same issue...
The details:

The RSW Solutions tool arrived today. It was really simple to get working and I have no arguments against the software. it seems to work smoothly. Yet, the calibration is not as straight-forward/guided as it is on the Foxwell or the Autel AP200. Yet, did order an AP200 (with one-day shipping from Amazon Prime) and it is an amazing tool for the money. It can do all the same things as the Foxwell could. The problem I have with the AP200 seems to be Bluetooth related. I cannot get through a calibration without the tool disconnecting from my phone via Bluetooth.
Therefore, the fact remains that the RSW tool has actually been able to '"calibrate" my air suspension whereas the other 2 have not. As a side note, I may try to get another AP200 tool as it has a lot of features that I like in a scanner for other vehicles I work on (in case it is just a defect with the one I got). Also, it kind of fills the gaps in the RSW solutions software.

Alright, I will move away from tools and focus on the problem. I have now adjusted the suspension with the RSW to be very close to level side to side, but not front to back (~19" in front ~20" in back). One thing that is interesting is that when using the RSW to calibrate is that it does not put the vehicle into calibration mode as the other 2 scanners did. RWS solutions video just says to set the truck to 'normal' height and then measure. After each adjustment, I would lower and then raise the suspension and found that driving the truck a couple of meters forward and then back helped to get things to the set height. After doing this and getting it to be very close to the values I noted above I test drove it and I still get the same result as before. Around 40 mph I get an air suspension error. the only code I got at that point was for cross-articulation. So, maybe I am just not calibrating correctly... I don't understand why I would be getting an error code if everything is good and the sensors are now calibrated so that selecting normal height gives me a level ride.

So any tips on how to calibrate with the RSW?
Do I need to aim for a certain ride height when the vehicle is set to "normal"?
Should I put the truck into tight tolerances mode for the calibration?
Have I thoroughly annoyed all you IIDtool owners yet? Or am I just annoying myself...
Oh, one more thing! So I am having TPMS issues too. I said I fixed them earlier but I was wrong they are still here. I think I am just going to order all new sensors and have the tire shop install them. Yet, I was wondering if the TPMS or my tires/rims I have on it could be an issue that is giving me suspension problems. The guy who sold the truck to me said he put these new tires on it and stock Land Rover rims on it off of another Land Rover. The tire size is 255/55 r19. Just a thought anyway...
 
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