Instrument Cluster Woes
#1
Instrument Cluster Woes
I have an issue with my instrument cluster that has recently gotten worse, everything goes blank unless you smack it.
Found a thread with same symptoms, but a Disco Mike ending..
Has anyone successfully resolved this? I'm thinking of pulling the cluster tomorrow (actually today considering it's 0220...)
I'm hoping a reconnect and a spritz of CRC226 corntact cleaner will possibly fix it..but I'm thinking maybe it's more expensive than that.
Oh. I have service records from the previous owner from the local LR dealer saying it needs a cluster. Hopefully I can prove them wrong.
Found a thread with same symptoms, but a Disco Mike ending..
Has anyone successfully resolved this? I'm thinking of pulling the cluster tomorrow (actually today considering it's 0220...)
I'm hoping a reconnect and a spritz of CRC226 corntact cleaner will possibly fix it..but I'm thinking maybe it's more expensive than that.
Oh. I have service records from the previous owner from the local LR dealer saying it needs a cluster. Hopefully I can prove them wrong.
#2
You need a cluster, they are reprogrammable but GAP has a workaround.
Cluster from the dealer is approx $1200 then you need a GAP tool Or Autologic to program.
New: approx $1800 cluster and GAP
buy a used cluster off eBay with less mileage than yours and program with GAPs technical support.
used approx $750 cluster and GAP
Cluster from the dealer is approx $1200 then you need a GAP tool Or Autologic to program.
New: approx $1800 cluster and GAP
buy a used cluster off eBay with less mileage than yours and program with GAPs technical support.
used approx $750 cluster and GAP
#3
@User, had the same problem on my '07 w/85k - ish a few years back. You're on the right track with removal, replug, and replace. Although this didn't rectify my cluster issue it gave me the confidence to replace when I acquired a substitute.
As stated above you will need a used cluster with less miles than your current cluster, GAP Tool, prep time to update GAP tool and load software, then only about an hour for the replace and re-flash.
I took the EBay route and got lucky, found a replacement for under $100 and the Fast Lane service (software) from GAP was $34. Very simple process, straightforward instructions from GAP, and now an instrument pack that is glitch free.
As stated above you will need a used cluster with less miles than your current cluster, GAP Tool, prep time to update GAP tool and load software, then only about an hour for the replace and re-flash.
I took the EBay route and got lucky, found a replacement for under $100 and the Fast Lane service (software) from GAP was $34. Very simple process, straightforward instructions from GAP, and now an instrument pack that is glitch free.
#4
I found this; https://www.ebay.com/itm/Speedometer...temCondition=4
I have 170k miles currently so it should be fine.
I have an IIDTool BT, bought it for my 2011 RR and it is still programmed to it, will I need to add the VIN or is standard "locked" mode enough? What is Fast Lane Service software? I will wait for your answer and email GAP in the morning.
ShopKeyPro says the steering wheel comes off to replace the cluster, just want to confirm that.
Hoping I can pull this off for ~$100.... I'm a cheap ***.
Edit
I sent an offer for $40, I think that is a reasonable offer. Hopefully the cluster plastic shield is not too scratched, or I can replace it with my shield.
I have 170k miles currently so it should be fine.
I have an IIDTool BT, bought it for my 2011 RR and it is still programmed to it, will I need to add the VIN or is standard "locked" mode enough? What is Fast Lane Service software? I will wait for your answer and email GAP in the morning.
ShopKeyPro says the steering wheel comes off to replace the cluster, just want to confirm that.
Hoping I can pull this off for ~$100.... I'm a cheap ***.
Edit
I sent an offer for $40, I think that is a reasonable offer. Hopefully the cluster plastic shield is not too scratched, or I can replace it with my shield.
Last edited by User; 06-17-2019 at 11:06 PM.
#5
@USER, I don't know what year your LR3 is but I never got a straight answer (was told both Yes and No) if I could replace with a 05-06 cluster as my LR3 is an '07. I held out for a 07-09 cluster.
You will know exactly how many miles are on the used cluster as soon as you plug it in. I found this out the hard way as the replacement I purchased supposedly had a few more miles than my broken cluster. I put the extra miles on my vehicle only to find out I could've replaced as soon as I received the used unit, it had 4k less miles than mine at the time it went bad. Time wasted.
I don't know if you will need to add your LR3 to your GAP Tool, my guess is yes but an e-mail to them with what you're planning to do should get you a definitive answer. The Fast Lane Service is the software you will need from GAP to retrieve all the info (mileage, vin, etc.) off your old Instrument Pack/ECU and install it on your replacement and updates the ECU.
I read the same about the steering wheel before I started, not true. Lower wheel, remover column cover, you will have just enough room to get the old unit out and the replacment in.
My replacement cluster had some scratches/scuffs on the window so I just swapped, real easy, it's only like a half-dozen tabs holding it on.
You will know exactly how many miles are on the used cluster as soon as you plug it in. I found this out the hard way as the replacement I purchased supposedly had a few more miles than my broken cluster. I put the extra miles on my vehicle only to find out I could've replaced as soon as I received the used unit, it had 4k less miles than mine at the time it went bad. Time wasted.
I don't know if you will need to add your LR3 to your GAP Tool, my guess is yes but an e-mail to them with what you're planning to do should get you a definitive answer. The Fast Lane Service is the software you will need from GAP to retrieve all the info (mileage, vin, etc.) off your old Instrument Pack/ECU and install it on your replacement and updates the ECU.
I read the same about the steering wheel before I started, not true. Lower wheel, remover column cover, you will have just enough room to get the old unit out and the replacment in.
My replacement cluster had some scratches/scuffs on the window so I just swapped, real easy, it's only like a half-dozen tabs holding it on.
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It has been a while since I looked into this but I am pretty sure the newer cluster has a green headlights on indicator while the older cluster has a red indicator (fuel burning heater?) in the same place. When updating older clusters (firmware and/or config) from a GAP IIDtool there is an option to suppress this behavior on older clusters so you don’t have to stare at a red light.
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