A little something about oil.
Mudding
Joined: Mar 2024
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From: San Diego
In the end, this discussion resolves nothing.
The "I've been driving for decades" argument is non-persuasive. It's the "I haven't been to the doctor in 20 years and I feel fine" argument. On the other hand, the arbitrary change limits others self-impose is no more objectively valid.
And while the "newer oils are better" argument sounds logical, the engines weren't produced when those oils were made, so just maybe they aren't optimized for it. Are these oils really tested on all the varieties of "old" motors? Unlikely.
What it ultimately comes down to is what gives you peace of mind.
One can easily argue that for most owning a Land Rover itself makes no sense. So let's stop pretending there is a known optimal "best time and brand" that can be applied in general. Beyond meeting the minimum specs, do what you are comfortable doing.
As for anecdotal "evidence" back when i was in college I had a friend who had a 19 year old Chrysler that he never changed to oil on in 4 years of college. Never had a problem with the car. So what? That proves nothing other than he was lucky.
On the other hand, i had a new infamous car that I kept perfectly maintained with time based oil changes due to low driving miles and its engine blew at 32k. miles.
The "I've been driving for decades" argument is non-persuasive. It's the "I haven't been to the doctor in 20 years and I feel fine" argument. On the other hand, the arbitrary change limits others self-impose is no more objectively valid.
And while the "newer oils are better" argument sounds logical, the engines weren't produced when those oils were made, so just maybe they aren't optimized for it. Are these oils really tested on all the varieties of "old" motors? Unlikely.
What it ultimately comes down to is what gives you peace of mind.
One can easily argue that for most owning a Land Rover itself makes no sense. So let's stop pretending there is a known optimal "best time and brand" that can be applied in general. Beyond meeting the minimum specs, do what you are comfortable doing.
As for anecdotal "evidence" back when i was in college I had a friend who had a 19 year old Chrysler that he never changed to oil on in 4 years of college. Never had a problem with the car. So what? That proves nothing other than he was lucky.
On the other hand, i had a new infamous car that I kept perfectly maintained with time based oil changes due to low driving miles and its engine blew at 32k. miles.
In the end, this discussion resolves nothing.
The "I've been driving for decades" argument is non-persuasive. It's the "I haven't been to the doctor in 20 years and I feel fine" argument. On the other hand, the arbitrary change limits others self-impose is no more objectively valid.
And while the "newer oils are better" argument sounds logical, the engines weren't produced when those oils were made, so just maybe they aren't optimized for it. Are these oils really tested on all the varieties of "old" motors? Unlikely.
What it ultimately comes down to is what gives you peace of mind.
One can easily argue that for most owning a Land Rover itself makes no sense. So let's stop pretending there is a known optimal "best time and brand" that can be applied in general. Beyond meeting the minimum specs, do what you are comfortable doing.
As for anecdotal "evidence" back when i was in college I had a friend who had a 19 year old Chrysler that he never changed to oil on in 4 years of college. Never had a problem with the car. So what? That proves nothing other than he was lucky.
On the other hand, i had a new infamous car that I kept perfectly maintained with time based oil changes due to low driving miles and its engine blew at 32k. miles.
The "I've been driving for decades" argument is non-persuasive. It's the "I haven't been to the doctor in 20 years and I feel fine" argument. On the other hand, the arbitrary change limits others self-impose is no more objectively valid.
And while the "newer oils are better" argument sounds logical, the engines weren't produced when those oils were made, so just maybe they aren't optimized for it. Are these oils really tested on all the varieties of "old" motors? Unlikely.
What it ultimately comes down to is what gives you peace of mind.
One can easily argue that for most owning a Land Rover itself makes no sense. So let's stop pretending there is a known optimal "best time and brand" that can be applied in general. Beyond meeting the minimum specs, do what you are comfortable doing.
As for anecdotal "evidence" back when i was in college I had a friend who had a 19 year old Chrysler that he never changed to oil on in 4 years of college. Never had a problem with the car. So what? That proves nothing other than he was lucky.
On the other hand, i had a new infamous car that I kept perfectly maintained with time based oil changes due to low driving miles and its engine blew at 32k. miles.
choices and knowledge sometimes helps people resolve things, in there own way.
And now he knows your opinion on the subject.
Rock Crawling
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 370
Likes: 91
From: Tip of the Mitt
When an oil analysis and an oil change are the same-ish price one might as well change it, assuming your doing it yourself. For those treating their LR's to a dealership oil change regualr analysis would be of value. Just to contradict myself, it might be a good idea to establish a baseline of when your individial engine needs fresh oil and the only emperical method is oil analysis...but once done you'd know for sure.
There is that school of thought about how it is a waste or resources to change your oil too often. Perhaps there is some truth to that, but there's also a waste of resources involved with replacing worn out metal and plastic.
And another thought-one of the posters here mentioned that everyone wanting you to change your oil is trying to sell you a product or service, but really around here it's offering advice about what seems realistic. We all seem to agree that 15K is just too far to go.
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There is that school of thought about how it is a waste or resources to change your oil too often. Perhaps there is some truth to that, but there's also a waste of resources involved with replacing worn out metal and plastic.
And another thought-one of the posters here mentioned that everyone wanting you to change your oil is trying to sell you a product or service, but really around here it's offering advice about what seems realistic. We all seem to agree that 15K is just too far to go.
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