D1 offroad beast, exoskeleton!
#1
D1 offroad beast, exoskeleton!
I don't know the seller and have not seen the car in person, but it looks cool.
1997 Land Rover discovery (Disco 1), extreme off road modified
I can do an inspection for a forum member if interested.
Let the comments begin!
1997 Land Rover discovery (Disco 1), extreme off road modified
I can do an inspection for a forum member if interested.
Let the comments begin!
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dusty1 (12-12-2014)
#5
Unfortunately, this is not that uncommon for D1's. It's what I wrote about in the recent "what to look for in a used Disco" thread: "For this generation of buyers, there were those who just hoped to have a usable vehicle that did a little something for their image, and there were others who paid so little they were not afraid to take the vehicles offroad -- seriously. The first type struggled to maintain them and either sold them again or neglected them while they rotted away. The second type beat them badly, and often used ghetto fab to keep them going in order to subject them to further punishment."
This is an example of Ghetto fab. Only I will give the builder further credit for going beyond basic repairs and fabricating a useless exocage, an A-Team bumper, and what is obviously a killer boomin' system.
I think all of the modifications done to this vehicle lower the resale value rather than increase it. The 4.75 gears with HD axles might have been some kind of upgrade over stock, but only if they were somehow different than everything that is visible, and if they hadn't been abused by 35" tires and a Detroit locker.
I would much rather start with a clean, stock vehicle, or even one that's been left to rot. But it is an object lesson in resale value. The fact is, had this guy done nothing more harmless than bolt on a few ARB accessories, he'd still be losing his shirt on the sale. The fact that he probably did spend over $10k on the heap only to possess less than a third of that in resale value is certainly a reality check.
This is an example of Ghetto fab. Only I will give the builder further credit for going beyond basic repairs and fabricating a useless exocage, an A-Team bumper, and what is obviously a killer boomin' system.
I think all of the modifications done to this vehicle lower the resale value rather than increase it. The 4.75 gears with HD axles might have been some kind of upgrade over stock, but only if they were somehow different than everything that is visible, and if they hadn't been abused by 35" tires and a Detroit locker.
I would much rather start with a clean, stock vehicle, or even one that's been left to rot. But it is an object lesson in resale value. The fact is, had this guy done nothing more harmless than bolt on a few ARB accessories, he'd still be losing his shirt on the sale. The fact that he probably did spend over $10k on the heap only to possess less than a third of that in resale value is certainly a reality check.
#7
Unfortunately, this is not that uncommon for D1's. It's what I wrote about in the recent "what to look for in a used Disco" thread: "For this generation of buyers, there were those who just hoped to have a usable vehicle that did a little something for their image, and there were others who paid so little they were not afraid to take the vehicles offroad -- seriously. The first type struggled to maintain them and either sold them again or neglected them while they rotted away. The second type beat them badly, and often used ghetto fab to keep them going in order to subject them to further punishment."
This is an example of Ghetto fab. Only I will give the builder further credit for going beyond basic repairs and fabricating a useless exocage, an A-Team bumper, and what is obviously a killer boomin' system.
I think all of the modifications done to this vehicle lower the resale value rather than increase it. The 4.75 gears with HD axles might have been some kind of upgrade over stock, but only if they were somehow different than everything that is visible, and if they hadn't been abused by 35" tires and a Detroit locker.
I would much rather start with a clean, stock vehicle, or even one that's been left to rot. But it is an object lesson in resale value. The fact is, had this guy done nothing more harmless than bolt on a few ARB accessories, he'd still be losing his shirt on the sale. The fact that he probably did spend over $10k on the heap only to possess less than a third of that in resale value is certainly a reality check.
This is an example of Ghetto fab. Only I will give the builder further credit for going beyond basic repairs and fabricating a useless exocage, an A-Team bumper, and what is obviously a killer boomin' system.
I think all of the modifications done to this vehicle lower the resale value rather than increase it. The 4.75 gears with HD axles might have been some kind of upgrade over stock, but only if they were somehow different than everything that is visible, and if they hadn't been abused by 35" tires and a Detroit locker.
I would much rather start with a clean, stock vehicle, or even one that's been left to rot. But it is an object lesson in resale value. The fact is, had this guy done nothing more harmless than bolt on a few ARB accessories, he'd still be losing his shirt on the sale. The fact that he probably did spend over $10k on the heap only to possess less than a third of that in resale value is certainly a reality check.
#8
35's have a large radius that can exert more torque on the Rover axle than it was designed to take before exceeding the yield strength. They can twist the axle shafts beyond the elastic limit and the axles won't return, but will remain a little twisted with plastic deformation. That deformation accumulates over time and eventually the axles become very weak, like a paper clip that has been bent too far too many times. The Detroit locker adds to this because it often fails to unlock in a corner, adding to the stress on the axle shaft on the inside of the turn. They're best known for their habit of suddenly unlocking with a "bang," but the real damage is done before they unlock. They twist the snot out of axle shafts when they're driven on the street. With modest tire sizes it might not be too big of an issue, but for Rover axles, 35's are pushing it to the limit even for "HD" axles.
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