OS 3.0 and Wireless CarPlay / Android Auto rolling out
#41
11-10-2021, 05:36 PM
@AvoTow - I don't know (yet), but if it takes over the PiviPro Nav, it should sync with the HUD. "Should" is the operative term. I'm optimistic, but I bought a Defender so that's likely redundant!
As for nav preference , I have found Google maps suck. Never liked it and only recently deleted it from my phone. My wife always uses Waze and I have found it useful in voiding serious accidents or delays on the interstate. Apple Maps is pretty good these days, especially now they’ve introduced more descriptive directions. Pivi Pro is also very good, especially because of the multi display options. Leaving COTA F1 race the other week I found Apple Maps did not work because local cell towers were overwhelmed by the sheer number of users all leaving the circuit at the same time. I switched to Pivi Pro and it worked perfectly. It there was a more seamless way to pass directions from my iPhone to Pivi navigation I would use it all the time.
#42
11-10-2021, 07:04 PM
Pro Wrench
I agree. I have to begrudgingly admit that PiviPro has the best native auto mapping I've owned. I usually almost always default over to Waze on CarPlay and I love it. Would REALLY like to be able to run GAIA thru CarPlay. Never done it so not sure I'd be able to. Mainly GAIA for off-roading & trails. Then Waze for driving. But I almost ALWAYS override which recommended route. It's just a PITA to have to unplug it because it won't show the "map" versions of alternates when connected to a vehicle.
#43
11-10-2021, 10:23 PM
I agree. I have to begrudgingly admit that PiviPro has the best native auto mapping I've owned. I usually almost always default over to Waze on CarPlay and I love it. Would REALLY like to be able to run GAIA thru CarPlay. Never done it so not sure I'd be able to. Mainly GAIA for off-roading & trails. Then Waze for driving. But I almost ALWAYS override which recommended route. It's just a PITA to have to unplug it because it won't show the "map" versions of alternates when connected to a vehicle.
#45
11-13-2021, 02:18 AM
Fantastic couple of tutorial videos for Pivi Pro posted on YouTube by Damian Dinning (JLR employee and Pivi Pro developer / expert).
The first one is a generic tutorial for Pivi Pro's various features, it's quite long but chock full of info, hands-on examples, tips/tricks, and is helpfully divided in chapters, so you can just jump to the parts that interest you. I discovered tons of previously unknown features built into the native navigation system alone, which the manuals don't talk about. Gave me new appreciation for the engineering involved in designing it.
The second is shorter and specific to 3.0, as it is quite an eventful release with lots of new tricks besides the wireless CarPlay and Android Auto capability:
The first one is a generic tutorial for Pivi Pro's various features, it's quite long but chock full of info, hands-on examples, tips/tricks, and is helpfully divided in chapters, so you can just jump to the parts that interest you. I discovered tons of previously unknown features built into the native navigation system alone, which the manuals don't talk about. Gave me new appreciation for the engineering involved in designing it.
The second is shorter and specific to 3.0, as it is quite an eventful release with lots of new tricks besides the wireless CarPlay and Android Auto capability:
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#47
11-13-2021, 09:41 AM
Rock Crawling
Thanks @umbertob for posting those! I'm sitting by anxiously awaiting my 3.0 update to get pushed out!
I've been using the CarlinKit 3.0 box and it works great, but one really annoying thing that I'm sure this 3.0 integration will hopefully solve is the aftermarket box comes alive and connects CarPlay to my iPhone as soon as it receives power. Therefore even if the car is off and you're filling with gas or working around the car with a door open, your calls, etc. are sent to CarPlay even when you don't want it to connect...
I've been using the CarlinKit 3.0 box and it works great, but one really annoying thing that I'm sure this 3.0 integration will hopefully solve is the aftermarket box comes alive and connects CarPlay to my iPhone as soon as it receives power. Therefore even if the car is off and you're filling with gas or working around the car with a door open, your calls, etc. are sent to CarPlay even when you don't want it to connect...
#48
11-13-2021, 10:25 AM
One thing the 3.0 update doesn't apparently address is CarPlay/Android Auto maps and directions mirroring in instrument cluster display or HUD when you pick a phone app (Google, Waze, etc) - instead of the native one - as your choice for navigation. Non-native maps and turn directions still only display on the main touchscreen, which is kind of a bummer. Hopefully a future update will fix that, assuming it's fixable.
#49
11-13-2021, 03:07 PM
Some pretty big news posted on the Defender Facebook group by a JLR team member:
New OS rolling out imminently, and Wireless CP/AA!
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Hi everyone. Great news. Over the coming days we will start the roll out of OS3.0!
This is the first of a number of major updates coming over the coming months. As always please note we use a staggered roll out so not all vehicles will receive the update at the same time. Please note: Depending on your vehicle you’ll need to be running 2.1.6 or 2.1.7 before 3.0 can be installed. Search for another post I wrote a while ago on over the air updates and tips for ensuring they download and install as soon as possible.
The official release notes are listed at the end, but I wanted to use this post to share some additional info /tips related to the most important addition as part of this update – Wireless Apple CarPlay & Wireless Android Auto.
As the words suggests, this update enables the ability to use your compatible Apple iPhone or Android smartphone without the need for a USB cable.
We’re also with this release introducing some enhancements to how Apple CarPlay & Android Auto are integrated into the Pivi/Pivi Pro experience, specifically Pivi/Pivi Pro’s homescreen to provide a more seamless experience than the typical Apple CarPlay & Android Auto experience.
First things first, getting set-up to use your smartphone wirelessly...
In most cases you’re going to need to delete your phone from Pivi/Pivi Pro AND within your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings, so let’s go ahead and do that first.
From virtually any Pivi screen click on the settings cog in the bottom corner of the touchscreen. Click ALL > connectivity > Bluetooth > <name of the phone you wish to delete and set-up for wireless CarPlay / Android Auto > scroll to the bottom and click on ‘Forget Device’.
Now go to your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings and find your vehicle in the list of paired devices. Delete/forget it.
Now, go back to Pivi’s Bluetooth settings and click on ‘Pair New Device’. Follow Pivi’s onscreen instructions but also look out for pop-up messages on your smartphone as you’ll need to accept some of these to ensure it connects.
Once the phone is paired Pivi will ask if you wish to use your phone with Apple CarPlay / Android Auto. Agree to this. Again, check your phone for similar requests.
In most cases you should now be done, but in case here’s a few things to check and a few tips.
First a few of Pivi’s settings:
1. Connectivity > Apple CarPlay / Android Auto (depending on your phone of course), check the switch is set to automatically launch Apple CarPlay/Android Auto when your phone connects to the vehicle – by default this should be set to on. If you prefer you can manually start/stop Apple CarPlay/Android Auto from the button above this control.
2. Connectivity > Wireless. This setting MUST be set to On. By default, it should be.
3. Your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings. There is often a setting for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in Bluetooth or wireless settings. Ensure this is enabled. Whilst you’re there if you wish to use messaging with Pivi Pro given Pivi Pro also supports message dictation in this release ensure show notifications is enabled on iPhone. Some Android phones have similar permission settings. This enables Pivi to display incoming text messages and then allow you to reply or send further messages. Remember Pivi also supports wake words. Go to settings > All > General > Voice Settings > Wake Word > Enable ‘Wake Word’. By default, this is Hey Land Rover. Alternatively, if you enable ‘My Wake Word’ you can record your own wake word. Mine is ‘Hey Pivi’, but you can use pretty much whatever you like as long as it has sufficient syllables for recognition.
With this set-up you can say ‘Hey Pivi send a message to <name of contact>’ on mobile.’ Pivi will then display a dictation screen for you to start dictating a message. You can also use message templates. My favourite is the one which sends your ETA as a text along with your destination and then automatically follows this up with updates if you’re running late.
With your Apple iPhone / Android smartphone connected over Apple CarPlay / Android Auto respectively you can also interact with Siri / Google Assistant through a long press of the speech recognition button on the steering wheel button.
Ok so that’s the set-up out of the way.
As part of this release, we’ve also enhanced the integration of Apple CarPlay / Android Auto. There’s a couple of important points to note here:
First let’s talk about what’s new. Now the phone, media and navigation tiles and their respective shortcuts in the sidebar will link directly to Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. This allows direct calling to favourite contacts (if the phone supports this) or recents directly from Pivi’s homescreen. If using Apple Carplay and Apple Maps or Android Auto and Google Maps the nav tile will now display information from those apps in Pivi’s navigation tile. The media tile also supports control and information depending on the connected device and media app in use. If using phone, media or navigation from a connected smartphone (connected via Apple CarPlay/Android Auto) the side bar icons will now also link to those apps.
IMPORTANT: This now means when you click on the navigation shortcut in the side bar (assuming there is a connected phone) this will launch the last used navigation app whether it be on your phone or Pivi Pro’s built-in navigation system. If you only use Pivi Pro’s navigation OR say Apple Maps via Apple CarPlay this will make life easier for you as this shortcut will launch the app you use regardless of where it is hosted. We expect most people will use one or the other. If, however, you like to use both, to launch Pivi Pro’s navigation app having previously used a navigation app on a connected smartphone, relaunch Pivi Pro’s navigation from the app launcher. Once you’ve done so and set a destination, the home tile and side bar shortcut will revert to link to Pivi Pro’s navigation system.
**OS3.0 Release Notes:**
Introduction of wireless Apple CarPlay™ & Android Auto®*
Apple CarPlay™ & Android Auto®* is now integrated into Pivi's home screen.
Connected Speech can be used to control TuneIn and Deezer
Message Dictation is now supported
Clearer icons for phone and vehicle signal strength
You can now also confirm a destination to start guidance directly from the search results list in the keyboard, removing one or two steps as we continue to refine the Pivi experience and aim to reduce steps wherever possible.
*Please check market applicability
New OS rolling out imminently, and Wireless CP/AA!
************************************************** **************************************************
Hi everyone. Great news. Over the coming days we will start the roll out of OS3.0!
This is the first of a number of major updates coming over the coming months. As always please note we use a staggered roll out so not all vehicles will receive the update at the same time. Please note: Depending on your vehicle you’ll need to be running 2.1.6 or 2.1.7 before 3.0 can be installed. Search for another post I wrote a while ago on over the air updates and tips for ensuring they download and install as soon as possible.
The official release notes are listed at the end, but I wanted to use this post to share some additional info /tips related to the most important addition as part of this update – Wireless Apple CarPlay & Wireless Android Auto.
As the words suggests, this update enables the ability to use your compatible Apple iPhone or Android smartphone without the need for a USB cable.
We’re also with this release introducing some enhancements to how Apple CarPlay & Android Auto are integrated into the Pivi/Pivi Pro experience, specifically Pivi/Pivi Pro’s homescreen to provide a more seamless experience than the typical Apple CarPlay & Android Auto experience.
First things first, getting set-up to use your smartphone wirelessly...
In most cases you’re going to need to delete your phone from Pivi/Pivi Pro AND within your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings, so let’s go ahead and do that first.
From virtually any Pivi screen click on the settings cog in the bottom corner of the touchscreen. Click ALL > connectivity > Bluetooth > <name of the phone you wish to delete and set-up for wireless CarPlay / Android Auto > scroll to the bottom and click on ‘Forget Device’.
Now go to your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings and find your vehicle in the list of paired devices. Delete/forget it.
Now, go back to Pivi’s Bluetooth settings and click on ‘Pair New Device’. Follow Pivi’s onscreen instructions but also look out for pop-up messages on your smartphone as you’ll need to accept some of these to ensure it connects.
Once the phone is paired Pivi will ask if you wish to use your phone with Apple CarPlay / Android Auto. Agree to this. Again, check your phone for similar requests.
In most cases you should now be done, but in case here’s a few things to check and a few tips.
First a few of Pivi’s settings:
1. Connectivity > Apple CarPlay / Android Auto (depending on your phone of course), check the switch is set to automatically launch Apple CarPlay/Android Auto when your phone connects to the vehicle – by default this should be set to on. If you prefer you can manually start/stop Apple CarPlay/Android Auto from the button above this control.
2. Connectivity > Wireless. This setting MUST be set to On. By default, it should be.
3. Your smartphone’s Bluetooth settings. There is often a setting for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in Bluetooth or wireless settings. Ensure this is enabled. Whilst you’re there if you wish to use messaging with Pivi Pro given Pivi Pro also supports message dictation in this release ensure show notifications is enabled on iPhone. Some Android phones have similar permission settings. This enables Pivi to display incoming text messages and then allow you to reply or send further messages. Remember Pivi also supports wake words. Go to settings > All > General > Voice Settings > Wake Word > Enable ‘Wake Word’. By default, this is Hey Land Rover. Alternatively, if you enable ‘My Wake Word’ you can record your own wake word. Mine is ‘Hey Pivi’, but you can use pretty much whatever you like as long as it has sufficient syllables for recognition.
With this set-up you can say ‘Hey Pivi send a message to <name of contact>’ on mobile.’ Pivi will then display a dictation screen for you to start dictating a message. You can also use message templates. My favourite is the one which sends your ETA as a text along with your destination and then automatically follows this up with updates if you’re running late.
With your Apple iPhone / Android smartphone connected over Apple CarPlay / Android Auto respectively you can also interact with Siri / Google Assistant through a long press of the speech recognition button on the steering wheel button.
Ok so that’s the set-up out of the way.
As part of this release, we’ve also enhanced the integration of Apple CarPlay / Android Auto. There’s a couple of important points to note here:
First let’s talk about what’s new. Now the phone, media and navigation tiles and their respective shortcuts in the sidebar will link directly to Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. This allows direct calling to favourite contacts (if the phone supports this) or recents directly from Pivi’s homescreen. If using Apple Carplay and Apple Maps or Android Auto and Google Maps the nav tile will now display information from those apps in Pivi’s navigation tile. The media tile also supports control and information depending on the connected device and media app in use. If using phone, media or navigation from a connected smartphone (connected via Apple CarPlay/Android Auto) the side bar icons will now also link to those apps.
IMPORTANT: This now means when you click on the navigation shortcut in the side bar (assuming there is a connected phone) this will launch the last used navigation app whether it be on your phone or Pivi Pro’s built-in navigation system. If you only use Pivi Pro’s navigation OR say Apple Maps via Apple CarPlay this will make life easier for you as this shortcut will launch the app you use regardless of where it is hosted. We expect most people will use one or the other. If, however, you like to use both, to launch Pivi Pro’s navigation app having previously used a navigation app on a connected smartphone, relaunch Pivi Pro’s navigation from the app launcher. Once you’ve done so and set a destination, the home tile and side bar shortcut will revert to link to Pivi Pro’s navigation system.
**OS3.0 Release Notes:**
Introduction of wireless Apple CarPlay™ & Android Auto®*
Apple CarPlay™ & Android Auto®* is now integrated into Pivi's home screen.
Connected Speech can be used to control TuneIn and Deezer
Message Dictation is now supported
Clearer icons for phone and vehicle signal strength
You can now also confirm a destination to start guidance directly from the search results list in the keyboard, removing one or two steps as we continue to refine the Pivi experience and aim to reduce steps wherever possible.
*Please check market applicability
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#50
11-13-2021, 10:05 PM
Fantastic couple of tutorial videos for Pivi Pro posted on YouTube by Damian Dinning (JLR employee and Pivi Pro developer / expert).
The first one is a generic tutorial for Pivi Pro's various features, it's quite long but chock full of info, hands-on examples, tips/tricks, and is helpfully divided in chapters, so you can just jump to the parts that interest you. I discovered tons of previously unknown features built into the native navigation system alone, which the manuals don't talk about. Gave me new appreciation for the engineering involved in designing it.
The second is shorter and specific to 3.0, as it is quite an eventful release with lots of new tricks besides the wireless CarPlay and Android Auto capability:
The first one is a generic tutorial for Pivi Pro's various features, it's quite long but chock full of info, hands-on examples, tips/tricks, and is helpfully divided in chapters, so you can just jump to the parts that interest you. I discovered tons of previously unknown features built into the native navigation system alone, which the manuals don't talk about. Gave me new appreciation for the engineering involved in designing it.
The second is shorter and specific to 3.0, as it is quite an eventful release with lots of new tricks besides the wireless CarPlay and Android Auto capability:
There are quite a few YouTube views for these, particularly the 3.0 overview, but not too many “likes”…
Damian clearly put a lot of time and effort into these videos. So let’s all show him some appreciation! That way we’re likely to get more of these.