Would like to turn discovery into an off road machine
X2 And there always seems to be a rock or stump hiding just waiting to bend or break something or rip a tire up.
Thank goodness most 4x4 groups and independent wheelers are very Tread Lightly but a few very, very rotten apples make the rest of us look terrible in the eyes of nonmotorized advocates and their uneducated dupes whom jump on anything to make our sport and pleasure look destructive. I have a sister who in the past would tell me: "enjoy destroying the environment". She had thought we all just take off cross country W/O regards to the anything and enjoyed destructive wheeling. Luckily I've finally got her educated to what really happens as we explore the wild in our trucks. This is what a lot of urbanites are being indoctrinated in by untruthful total wilderness advocates.
I had the OME 763/764 (3" lift)on my truck for a while it handled and rode fine on road but seemed a little stiff for off road. I had a rack and gear (about 150lbs) if that helps. OME also has MD/HD springs now at least for the rear (781s I think Old Man Emu Coil Springs -- EE -- Expedition Exchange Incorporated). If youre planning on bumpers, gear, armor, rack, etc I would go with the HD springs.
I don't like tearing trails and roads up. There are too many people around here and many other places that like to go out mudding and really tear up and rut the trails plus often end up going off trail and doing a lot of damage in the wet muck. Just plays right into the people that want to close so many trails so many places. I always try and tread as lightly as possible. Doesn't mean I don't get in to muddy conditions ever but I try and not go out in muddy conditions. I certainly don't mind going out in wet rocky terrain in the mountains as no damage is caused but we have a lot of adobe land in the west and the trails and land are easily torn to shreds if it is wet. Awful lot of antiwheeling people watching everything we do plus the BLM and FS are increasingly closing anything that has been damaged or could be damaged by careless wheeling. I was out south of Montrose in the last day or 2 after recent rains and some wheelers had deliberately been out in the mud and caused some real tough damage both on the adobe soil trails and had spun out into some pristine land just off the trails too. I was pretty pissed off to see the deliberate damage they had done. We have to tread as lightly as possible or we will lose much of our wheeling heritage to the antiwheeling groups. Sometimes when I see some of the off roading damage I want to shoot whomever did it because they are ruining my enjoyment and ruining it for everyone else.
Amen brother!!!
They have been closing trails around here because of abuse and people tearing up the open area's and destroying habitat for critters.
Makes the rest of use look bad.
Not a fan of people tearing stuff up on trails.. but what's more irritating is listening to the yuppies that drive a Prius talk about how the environment is impacted. Apparently no-one realizes that at one point in time there weren't roads or cars. Even if 1/10 people out wheeling were deliberately destructive, the impact wouldn't even come close to what was done while making one driveway.
If you lift it too much you create additional problems with the driveline geometry and such. 2 inches is fine. keep in mind if it still has the original springs, it is probably sagging currently due to old worn out springs.



