LOL, can you fill in the blanks?

 

Updating you guys with the wiring harness. Just some minor changes in the wire progress. Originally, since most of the various sample connectors I got had 16 gauge wires on them, I had a discussion with the harness manufacturer and agreed that we will increase the wire to a thicker 14 gauge. But in the process, it took some time to oversize the standard connector fittings, silicone each wire to get through, solder and crimp. Its a more complicated process. They mentioned that it will be water tight once everything is done.

Shipping tomorrow, below is a picture of the harness from their office.

 

Is it possible for the customer to do this task?


I know I can, but to keep costs down even farther, you could suggest what wire to buy but just include the connectors or have them assemble it.

 

Those are just JPT connectors. Normally a boot and a sheath used to further seal them up.

http://www.mouser.com/TE-Connectivit...yzs6iiZ1yvsm2e

 

I understand that with even a little knowledge/skill everyone can do this task. But, I questioned myself during the entire process of building this until now, is it all worth it? Not even sure, there might be few working discos around to use it. Most, would like to keep the coils where they are. But, its me, I just have to finish what I started and its all worth it! But there are also things I thought that will make assembly easier for everybody because I am not familiar with the skill levels of individual owners.

My concern is TIME, waiting for individual parts, shipping, compatibility and at the end, it wont fit or match, TIME wasted. Some owners does not even have time to do all those and still would like to maintain their trucks. To complete a project like this is almost as long as this POST since it started. haha!
2nd, this is part of the ignition system and its extended. One small mistake, loose connection, weak solder and loose crimp will eventually lead to more problems especially with vibration. Please remember that the WIRE gauge they recommended is a gauge larger than the connector can use so some extra procedure made to fit them inside. Its professionally made.
3rd, the project should be able to handle daily driver and off road use so the wire maker told me that it should be water tight. This I had to consider as well because according to earlier posts, waterproofing was suggested.
4th, I'll just go nuts in shipping individual parts. LOL!
5th, All that had been made are for kits and I have no spare.
I am sure that this will meet its purpose with less aggravation to others during installation. If there are PROS and CONS about relocating the coils, just read the entire post again. I had mine installed since I got the HT wires and thats all.

In reference to older relocation post, here are some links:
https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...-access-40910/

https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...l-packs-66587/

This one is funny:

 

Some Junior-PT connectors won't handle larger wires especially when extending them close to the front. If you remove those yellow seal, the wires will wobble inside and water can get in them. Securely fastening the wires require the plug. I got plenty, exact looking JPT samples but the clips and the rails are all different and some are too short to click (lock) to the other end. The nearest fit is this but the wires are soldered already (link below)
1999-2004 Land Rover Discovery Ignition Coil Connector Kit - Engine Electrical - Standard Motor Products 99-04 Discovery Ignition Coil Connector Kit - 278-05228209 - PartsGeek
Cheers!

 

I appreciate LR03NJ for asking this rhetorical question about his own project!

We all recognize the coil location sucks on the DII. But how often will we realistically need to change the wires?

Before I got back into turning a wrench the mechanic I then used changed the wires to STIs. That was 55,000 miles and nearly 10 years ago and the wires are still going strong. Will I need to replace them again? Maybe. Maybe once. But as much as a PITA as it would be I can't see it being worth my while to relocate the coils.

Think about it. Let's say I needed to replace the coils and/or wires tomorrow. The time and money needed to replace the coils and wires would be less than needed to relocate the coils and install custom wires. And moreover, would I be likely to ever need to do it again? Realistically I doubt I'll own the truck another 50,000 miles and 10 years. Why bother?

Don't get me wrong; the tinkerer in me admires and respects and enjoys the problem solving and resourcefulness that went into this effort but I think it is more of a passionate exercise and not one that makes sense in purely economic terms.

 

I totally understand you mln01. We are talking about a 13 year old and up vehicle which might not last. I even mentioned that earlier in this post that HT wires can last as long as you own your car even as the coil. But then paranoia will set in. LOL

As I see that you did your head gasket in 2011 when it was 109,500 and adding 5 years on that, you probably close to 170-180 miles plus another 50k from this date, yes it is real that you might not own the tuck anymore. But, some people also want to keep their truck longer, enjoy them because of its classic look or just see how long it will last. Not all of us are mechanically inclined to replace parts and end up going to an LR mechanic. Let us say, tune up from an LR mechanic, how much it will cost to get it, $500-600 or up? I figure that relocating it will cost you as much or less, and thats economical for me.

We all have different ways of solving problems and high milage cars need more maintenance than when it was new. Anything could fail, corrode, crack, arc, ingest water or just pure misfortune after reinstalling it in the back. You even mention in your signature ". . .and many other ridiculous failures" I see that those ridiculous failures can happen. "Will I need to replace them again? Maybe." So that Maybe will be easier next time and that if you still decide to keep your car and this is realistically.

I assume that with a little guidance, even a novice like my wife can tune up the disco by just leaving the old coil in the back. But she'll kill me if I ask. lol

Well, there are pros and cons in everything. I have made something that worked for me and I'm happy. And in the future if it will make you change your mind, I'll be happy to save one for you so we can join the 300K Club. Cheers!

 

I glanced at mouser and they have terminals down to 13 gauge and seals for up to 3mm diameter wire

http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/418/NG_CD...B16-647060.pdf

 

Cool, thats great. Just hope the outside rails, meaning the plastic housing can go all the way in and locks. I ended up getting a couple of different ones to match exactly the coil packs and the harness from behind the engine. I learned the hard way, they all look similar but variations wont fit well.
Upon learning that some china made connectors are slightly different because of some patent issues but im not sure if thats is true. All these connectors are way over the patent life. Cheers

EDIT:
I see the plastic housing is from Itallian origin and the copper tips are German.