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Old 10-15-2021 | 09:34 AM
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I used a spring compressor to install one spring, sucked so I re thought the situation. Then I got smart and put a 2x4 turned side ways between the frame and axle, pushed the axle plenty far enough down to install 3 inch tf springs with little to no assistant with a pry bar.

To get enough ground clearance I used a 10 ton train jack to get the frame plenty high off the ground. I took the tires off for more clearance. Like you guys my little ton jack stands are only good for supporting the axles.

I did each spring with abs lines pulled loose on the front and disconnected from the back. stock brake lines were pulled loose. I didn't install my new extended hoses until I was done to prevent me doing something dumb and damaging them.

much easier and less effort than a leaf spring lift swap on my excursion. No having to use ratchet straps to pull the axle into place. The springs also didn't way nearly 100 lbs each

I set toe in to about 1/16 with straight edge 6 ft pieces of angle iron sitting on cinder blocks with a tape measure. To make it easier to adjust I used the bags the shocks/springs came to place under the tires. I jacked up each front tire one at a time and slid a 12x12, 3/4 inch thick plywood square under each tire with the thick plastic bag between the tire and wood. This allows the big 285 75 16 mud terrains to slide side to side with minimal effort. Not a perfect alignment but good enough to drive 15 miles to the alignment shop without eating the tires.

 
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Old 10-15-2021 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DodyDisco
Could I just lift the frame/body upward with a bottle jack on top the axle to the frame? Truck still on the ground? Was tempted to try it that way.
That's exactly how I always do the rears. I don't even remove the wheels.
 
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Old 10-15-2021 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
That's exactly how I always do the rears. I don't even remove the wheels.
With the tires on the ground still so its just the body moving up and away?
 
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Old 10-15-2021 | 11:23 PM
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I have RTE 3” springs and shocks on order. Look forward to hearing what you think about them. What worked for me for my current TF 3” lift… I purchased cement blocks something like 12x8 and maybe 4” tall from Lowe’s. placed under the jack stands. Pretty inexpensive around $4-5 dollars.
 
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Old 10-16-2021 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DodyDisco
With the tires on the ground still so its just the body moving up and away?
Righto. Only disconnect shocks, maybe abs sensor and brake hose brake hose if necessary. Vice grip off the brake hose first so you're not allowing air back into the brake line if you've got to disconnect it. That, or remove the caliper and then throw the wheel back on to continue. That said, I feel like I didn't actually have to disconnect the brake at all. I'm thinking I only disconnected the shock and then jacked them apart.
 
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Old 10-16-2021 | 09:44 AM
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stock brake lines should be alright however it does come close to their limit if I remember correctly.
 
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Old 10-16-2021 | 08:07 PM
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Finally got the rears in. Bottle jack between the axle and frame with the tires still on the ground made it easy.

Brake lines didn't need disconnected but were close to the max they would go, Abs lines would be to short but pop easily out of the spot they clip to. Mine had already been relocated.


Sitting at 24" hub center to fender flare in the ​front.
Rear sitting at 22 1/4"
Got a ton of lift in the front and right about 3" in the rear.
HD springs so i guess its time to add a front bumper and winch bring the front down a bit maybe.
 
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Old 10-17-2021 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
Vice grip off the brake hose first so you're not allowing air back into the brake line if you've got to disconnect it.
Never, ever, never, ever do this. Brake hoses are hydraulic hoses, which means the have super strong interior rubber material to with stand the brake systems pressures. So, when you clamp the hose...you are crushing the inner rubber portion of the hose, which then becomes frayed inside, which causes ridges of broken rubber material to block fluids movement, especially movement of brake fluid when releasing brake. The power asist portion of the brake system can easily push fluid through the frayed area to apply brakes, but the pressure created by rotor moving (natural amount of runout/wobble in rotor) will not move caliper back, because it can not overcome resistance (interior fraying). So, caliper drags, eventually wearing out pads sooner.

or remove the caliper and then throw the wheel back on to continue.
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Always do this (if you need extra access). But...never, ever, never, ever...just let caliper dangle by hose or drop caliper while still attached to hose. This can also damage inner portion of hose...causing drag issues and premature brake pad wear.

 
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Old 10-17-2021 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks for the correction, Brian. That's a great point.
 
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Old 10-18-2021 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
Thanks for the correction, Brian. That's a great point.
Believe me, it happens a lot Alex. Had a new tech do it the just other day. It kind of makes me wonder what they are teaching the new guys at the vocational schools/colleges. Actually, we have three young guys, fresh out of trade schools and none of them had heard of this (brake line clamping being a no-no), so l cut the hose open, by slicing the softer outer layer horizontally, that the one tech had clamped with vise grips earlier and showed them.

Have a good day!
 
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