why does it rev high at idle and then goes down?
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#2
It could be sticking, you can clean inside the throttle butterfly with carb cleaner. Or cable could be bound up and need lube.
The Throttle Position sensor tells the ECU the angle of the throttle plate, and based on the return of that angle to minimum position the ECU shuts down fuel to injectors and prepares for idle speed. TPS might also be gunked up, but clean with electrical cleaner, too many small plastic parts. Once at idle, the IACV controls idle (a 200 position steper motor or computer controlled vacuum leak). The IACV can be removed and cleaned with carb cleaner, but don't move the end of it, let the computer do that.
A code reader scanner can display throttle position, it should be 9-10% at idle, it actually should not be at zero. You should see a smooth transition of values, not huge jumps, as accelerator is depressed. It is a potentiometer, fancy word for "volume control". When electrically dirty will make "static" just like an old radio. ECUs do not like "static" and computations are frazzled.
Pages from shop manual attached.
The Throttle Position sensor tells the ECU the angle of the throttle plate, and based on the return of that angle to minimum position the ECU shuts down fuel to injectors and prepares for idle speed. TPS might also be gunked up, but clean with electrical cleaner, too many small plastic parts. Once at idle, the IACV controls idle (a 200 position steper motor or computer controlled vacuum leak). The IACV can be removed and cleaned with carb cleaner, but don't move the end of it, let the computer do that.
A code reader scanner can display throttle position, it should be 9-10% at idle, it actually should not be at zero. You should see a smooth transition of values, not huge jumps, as accelerator is depressed. It is a potentiometer, fancy word for "volume control". When electrically dirty will make "static" just like an old radio. ECUs do not like "static" and computations are frazzled.
Pages from shop manual attached.
Last edited by Savannah Buzz; 08-23-2012 at 05:37 AM.
#3
I checked the actual butterfly and throttle cable and thats fine. Ill check the other stuff tomorrow, the problem is this:
I start the car and it jumps to 3k rpm, sit there for a while or until i give it a little gas then it drops to 2k and sits at idle at 2k, then I go to press the clutch in, it will jump to 3k and when I put it in gear, it will go to normal, as soon as it take it out of gear and press the clutch in again, it jumps back to 3k, pretty much, it sits at 2k idle
I start the car and it jumps to 3k rpm, sit there for a while or until i give it a little gas then it drops to 2k and sits at idle at 2k, then I go to press the clutch in, it will jump to 3k and when I put it in gear, it will go to normal, as soon as it take it out of gear and press the clutch in again, it jumps back to 3k, pretty much, it sits at 2k idle
#5
Sounds like IACV and/or vacuum leak. Can also be engine coolant sensor telling the ECU that it is -40F out there. If you have a code reader scanner, or can rent one at parts store, check for coolant temp. Should be garage temp at start up in morning. A D1 has two coolant temp sensors, one runs the gauge, a second one just talks to the ECU. Could be as simple as coolant sensor unplugged (it has a square brown plug on top - two conductors, gauge on on has single conductor) - near thermostat housing.
#6
Resolved???
Reviving an old thread. Did you ever resolve this? My ‘96 5spd just started doing this same thing, and usually idles at 2k for a bit then drops down to 700.
didnt have this issue before just doing plugs, wires and new pcv hoses. One hose had a rip, and two plugs were in finger tight so it had a serious lack of power before and no idle issue. Could the ecu just be overcompensating now and relearning slowly?
didnt have this issue before just doing plugs, wires and new pcv hoses. One hose had a rip, and two plugs were in finger tight so it had a serious lack of power before and no idle issue. Could the ecu just be overcompensating now and relearning slowly?
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