Discovery 2 LS Conversion
#1231
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Karmakannon (08-26-2022)
#1232
Got it started for the first time 🎉 Only problem was getting it shut off without pulling the battery cable 😳
I'm assuming the problem is with the ignition wiring. I have the BP harness and ECU, if that helps. I have the wire labelled "switched ignition" from bundle 1 spliced with a 12v switched wire (pink from the BP harnesses fuse box), with the Rover C0634 pin 1 white wire. Not sure what I'm doing wrong...
* I removed the pink 12v wire and it starts and stops like normal now.
I'm assuming the problem is with the ignition wiring. I have the BP harness and ECU, if that helps. I have the wire labelled "switched ignition" from bundle 1 spliced with a 12v switched wire (pink from the BP harnesses fuse box), with the Rover C0634 pin 1 white wire. Not sure what I'm doing wrong...
* I removed the pink 12v wire and it starts and stops like normal now.
Last edited by danyboyGA; 08-29-2022 at 05:25 PM.
#1233
Got it started for the first time 🎉 Only problem was getting it shut off without pulling the battery cable 😳
I'm assuming the problem is with the ignition wiring. I have the BP harness and ECU, if that helps. I have the wire labelled "switched ignition" from bundle 1 spliced with a 12v switched wire (pink from the BP harnesses fuse box), with the Rover C0634 pin 1 white wire. Not sure what I'm doing wrong...
* I tested all the wires for power without the ignition on, but none did.
I'm assuming the problem is with the ignition wiring. I have the BP harness and ECU, if that helps. I have the wire labelled "switched ignition" from bundle 1 spliced with a 12v switched wire (pink from the BP harnesses fuse box), with the Rover C0634 pin 1 white wire. Not sure what I'm doing wrong...
* I tested all the wires for power without the ignition on, but none did.
My belt was almost impossible to get on if that helps assure you. I think another .25-.5" would have been perfect. Both tensioners were maxed out and I had to use a screwdriver to get the belt on the last pulley. After some miles it stretches and I can take it on and off by hand. My belt touches the hood insulation by the AC compressor so I might need a new belt sooner or later anyway. I like to get new belts on my cars and zip tie the old ones somewhere under the hood anyway.
#1234
I went to pick it up today with the exhaust attached and o2 sensors plugged in and it was doing the same thing. I stumbled off the lift having to give it gas to prevent a stall.
Does the truck need to go through a relearning process first? I'm one day from my deadline and was really hoping to be fully done. I really hope this issue is a simple fix...
*The ecu was is tuned by BP to the parameters set in the manual (min 750 idle, ect.). Is a subsequent tune required for proper operation?
#1235
Has 2002 Beast fixed his issues with the idle? I feel like I'm dealing with the same issues that he was. It'd be nice to know whether it was a tuning issue or a fuel pump issue. I will be getting the Disco back from the exhaust shop today, but was concerned about idling issues and difficulty starting. Before taking the truck in this morning to reattach the exhaust (without the exhaust or o2 sensors) the idle was rough and surging at times. I assumed this was due to the lack of the o2 sensors. Previously, I got codes for the idle air control valve (replaced), then map sensor (replaced), so assumed once the o2 sensor were installed the truck should start and run normally.
I went to pick it up today with the exhaust attached and o2 sensors plugged in and it was doing the same thing. I stumbled off the lift having to give it gas to prevent a stall.
Does the truck need to go through a relearning process first? I'm one day from my deadline and was really hoping to be fully done. I really hope this issue is a simple fix...
*The ecu was is tuned by BP to the parameters set in the manual (min 750 idle, ect.). Is a subsequent tune required for proper operation?
I went to pick it up today with the exhaust attached and o2 sensors plugged in and it was doing the same thing. I stumbled off the lift having to give it gas to prevent a stall.
Does the truck need to go through a relearning process first? I'm one day from my deadline and was really hoping to be fully done. I really hope this issue is a simple fix...
*The ecu was is tuned by BP to the parameters set in the manual (min 750 idle, ect.). Is a subsequent tune required for proper operation?
If you search for something like "maf issue LS" you'll find some good info. From memory you can unplug the maf and if it idles better it's the maf or the tune or maf calibration. I cleaned my maf with alcohol and a q tip.
Last edited by Karmakannon; 08-29-2022 at 05:46 PM.
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danyboyGA (08-30-2022)
#1236
Has 2002 Beast fixed his issues with the idle? I feel like I'm dealing with the same issues that he was. It'd be nice to know whether it was a tuning issue or a fuel pump issue. I will be getting the Disco back from the exhaust shop today, but was concerned about idling issues and difficulty starting. Before taking the truck in this morning to reattach the exhaust (without the exhaust or o2 sensors) the idle was rough and surging at times. I assumed this was due to the lack of the o2 sensors. Previously, I got codes for the idle air control valve (replaced), then map sensor (replaced), so assumed once the o2 sensor were installed the truck should start and run normally.
I went to pick it up today with the exhaust attached and o2 sensors plugged in and it was doing the same thing. I stumbled off the lift having to give it gas to prevent a stall.
Does the truck need to go through a relearning process first? I'm one day from my deadline and was really hoping to be fully done. I really hope this issue is a simple fix...
*The ecu was is tuned by BP to the parameters set in the manual (min 750 idle, ect.). Is a subsequent tune required for proper operation?
I went to pick it up today with the exhaust attached and o2 sensors plugged in and it was doing the same thing. I stumbled off the lift having to give it gas to prevent a stall.
Does the truck need to go through a relearning process first? I'm one day from my deadline and was really hoping to be fully done. I really hope this issue is a simple fix...
*The ecu was is tuned by BP to the parameters set in the manual (min 750 idle, ect.). Is a subsequent tune required for proper operation?
From your description, it sounds like you may have a vacuum leak, so I'd hunt around and see if you have an air leak after the MAF. Intake, evap, brake booster line, throttle body, I'd start there.
From what I have heard, BP may not have the greatest base map, so you may need to have it tuned. The PSI base tune I think might be better 'out of the box'. Regardless, to get it to run good, you should have it tuned. I'd lean toward it not being fuel pump issues if that was fine before the swap, but it is possible.
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danyboyGA (08-30-2022)
#1237
It was a vacuum leak on the intake 😅 There were actually two cracked tabs at the top of the intake. After smoke testing and using brake cleaner to no avail, I accidently leaned on the tab while backing out of the engine bay in defeat. The engine started to stumble, so I found it. Thanks for the help and input! What a relief...
I'm gonna epoxy it for now and see how it goes. The dealership wanted $750 for a new plastic intake 😂 I'm not inclinded to throw $500 into a new aluminum one, but might get a cheap one from amazon (https://a.co/d/9XTEoKq).
* Runs and idles smoothly now! Only problem left is that it takes two cranks to start, every single time. I'll check fuel pressure over time to see if there's a slow leak somewhere. Any advice is welcome.
I'm gonna epoxy it for now and see how it goes. The dealership wanted $750 for a new plastic intake 😂 I'm not inclinded to throw $500 into a new aluminum one, but might get a cheap one from amazon (https://a.co/d/9XTEoKq).
* Runs and idles smoothly now! Only problem left is that it takes two cranks to start, every single time. I'll check fuel pressure over time to see if there's a slow leak somewhere. Any advice is welcome.
Last edited by danyboyGA; 08-30-2022 at 06:36 PM.
#1238
It was a vacuum leak on the intake 😅 There were actually two cracked tabs at the top of the intake. After smoke testing and using brake cleaner to no avail, I accidently leaned on the tab while backing out of the engine bay in defeat. The engine started to stumble, so I found it. Thanks for the help and input! What a relief...
I'm gonna epoxy it for now and see how it goes. The dealership wanted $750 for a new plastic intake 😂 I'm not inclinded to throw $500 into a new aluminum one, but might get a cheap one from amazon (https://a.co/d/9XTEoKq).
I'm gonna epoxy it for now and see how it goes. The dealership wanted $750 for a new plastic intake 😂 I'm not inclinded to throw $500 into a new aluminum one, but might get a cheap one from amazon (https://a.co/d/9XTEoKq).
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danyboyGA (08-30-2022)
#1240
I've still been cranking twice before starting, but haven't checked the fuel pressure, or changed the intake yet. I'm just happy that it runs and drives at this point. It has new plugs, wires, all the sensors, so I assume that it's the intake, fuel pump, injectors, or o-rings. I cleaned each injector, so I'm doubting that it's them though.
She whistles as the revs increase (which will get annoying soon enough), so I assume there's still a vacuum leak, or there's internal damage to the intake (unless it's something else altogether [hopefully not the flywheel]). I'll check the fuel pressure when I swap over intakes. It has 183k miles on it, so it might make sense to change the fuel pump anyways? Otherwise, it's been running great!
My goal was to pick my kids up for school with it within the timeline I had with a loaner vehicle. Glad that I was able to get err done. I really appreciate the support. My kids were super pumped when I picked them up for school in the D2. My older boy (9) was pretty skeptical about it working again 😂 He always talks mess about it being old and how I should get rid of it. NEVER!!!! I've had a D2 for 20 years now, hopefully 20 more...
She whistles as the revs increase (which will get annoying soon enough), so I assume there's still a vacuum leak, or there's internal damage to the intake (unless it's something else altogether [hopefully not the flywheel]). I'll check the fuel pressure when I swap over intakes. It has 183k miles on it, so it might make sense to change the fuel pump anyways? Otherwise, it's been running great!
My goal was to pick my kids up for school with it within the timeline I had with a loaner vehicle. Glad that I was able to get err done. I really appreciate the support. My kids were super pumped when I picked them up for school in the D2. My older boy (9) was pretty skeptical about it working again 😂 He always talks mess about it being old and how I should get rid of it. NEVER!!!! I've had a D2 for 20 years now, hopefully 20 more...