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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 12:43 AM
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Default 95 Disco Key Fob replacement

This has probably already been answered but I can't seem to locate it. I recently bought a 95 Disco, it came with one key (bent and probably not long for this world) and no fob. Question is, can I get a universal fob or do I need to get a LR specific and if I can use a universal does it program the same as a factory fob?

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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 01:07 PM
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you need to reprogram any new fob.
433 MHz ones are cheap and readily available from Allmakes or Bearmach.
Problem si for the US they used 315 Mhz.
these are NLA.. So you swap your 10 AS for a 433MHz and buy a cheap FOB or you pay hell for the 315 one.
there is a lady in Britain who promised to repair 315 fobs for me if I can send her at least 10.

Also could swap your receiver in the 10AS.. or get you a European one.
You need to do a 14 CUX or GEMS security learn.. no big deal but you need at least a Hawkeye to do so.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:41 PM
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The 94-95 models were different than the ones that were 96 and newer. If you get a replacement: make sure it is compatible with your system.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by annette
you need to reprogram any new fob.
433 MHz ones are cheap and readily available from Allmakes or Bearmach.
Problem si for the US they used 315 Mhz.
these are NLA.. So you swap your 10 AS for a 433MHz and buy a cheap FOB or you pay hell for the 315 one.
there is a lady in Britain who promised to repair 315 fobs for me if I can send her at least 10.

Also could swap your receiver in the 10AS.. or get you a European one.
You need to do a 14 CUX or GEMS security learn.. no big deal but you need at least a Hawkeye to do so.
Thank you for the reply. I'm not electronically inclined in the least so could you explain in a little more depth: What is a 10 AS and where is it located? Also what is a 14 CUX and a GEMS and a Hawkeye? Sorry for the dumb questions and thank you for the help.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:55 AM
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Forget that bit of advice about replacing the 17VT module with a 10AS unit. You will NEVER get it to work on a NAS Discovery. The rest of the Rover world (ROW) never got GEMS in 1996 like we did here in the US. They still outfitted V8 DI's with the 14CUX injection system while they bumped security up to the Lucas 10AS module.

I know, your eyes are rolling back in your head right about now but don't worry. I suggest, if you're really concerned about remote locking, to either keep an eye on eBay as every once in awhile someone is selling a remote fob or, alternatively, bypassing the 17VT alarm module and installing an aftermarket central locking kit.

For future reference:

Lucas 10AM is the alarm module found in 1996-1999 DI's. It's a small green box behind the glove box. It works with the GEMS (generic engine management system) fuel injection ECU found under a plastic concealer on the inner passenger fender wall. Since you have an early DI FORGET any of this information as it does not apply to your truck.

Lucas 17VT is the black alarm module found behind the glove box of YOUR DI. It is a far simpler version of the 10AS mentioned above but they are not interchangeable within the fuel injection system that was used with the 17VT. The fuel injection system used on your truck in conjunction with the 17VT was call the Lucas 14CUX system. It is a simpler version of the GEMS injection system.

The 14CUX system was OBDI where as the GEMS unit was OBDII. Here in the US all manufacturers were required to have OBDII systems in their vehicles by '96/'97 and Land Rover's move to GEMS was a response to that requirement.

The 14CUX system incorporates a code reader located under the passenger seat. It is a black box smaller than a pack of cigarettes. When the key is in position II or the vehicle is running you can see a red LED display of a number on the code reader when the Check Engine Light is illuminated on the dash. To read codes on a GEMS system with OBDII you need a specific code reader.

Hawkeye is a diagnostic tool sold by Bearmach to help in sorting out your Rover. There are others available at a variety of prices with varying capabilities. There are plenty of threads on this bulletin board about the merits of the different diagnostic tools.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 04:11 PM
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Thank you, that helped. I'll keep an eye open on ebay as I'm not too concerned about the remote lock. I was actually more concerned about setting the alarm off or have the whole thing shut down because I did not have a remote.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 04:14 PM
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If you're really concerned about getting locked out take a look at the sticky at the top of Series 1 Discovery board. You'll find all the information you'll need to bypass the 17VT alarm module. You'll have to manually lock all the doors but you'll never have to worry about the alarm system locking you out or leaving you stranded.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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Will do, thank you
 
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