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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 09:31 AM
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The usual get E rated tires comes from people who have owned and used these cars for a long time.

Unless you have extensive prior experience with a discovery 3 and D rated tires I would just fess up and say you flat out disagree with the recommendation, but saying you think that everyone who makes that recommendation after years of driving is wrong, is somewhat strange.

This is from someone who used D rated tires, and did not like it.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by m_lars
Can you elaborate on this? I have no idea what you mean.

Yes, the pathfinder is smaller, I only referenced because of the rim diameter and airing down. The sequoia is very much in the same class in terms of size, a little larger, and weight, 200lbs less curb weight stock. His is not stock and is definitely heavier. I think we’d all agree that the LR3 is a more impressive machine, but we’re talking about tires in an off road situation and the size and weight are very close.
I stand corrected on the Sequoia weight comment; I'm surprised at how heavy those beasts are. My comment on Sequoias and Pathfinders not being the 4x4 that the LR3 is was based on the notion that while yes, they are 4WD, they really aren't built for the purpose of technical trail work and you won't find many of them (any of them?) on the trails really stressing their tires. Maybe a Pathfinder but doubtful you'll see a Sequoia out there, ever. Point being, we are talking about a specific use-case, technical off-roading, and the Pathfinder and Sequoia become moot.

I appreciate your questioning...I went with an E-Rated tire for the same reason I bolted on Rover Specialties sliders and with everything else I use on my LR3, I will not settle for anything that isn't the best or the strongest or the safest. Could you get away with a D-rated tire? Probably...but I don't see why you would do that. I know a guy that was (might still be) wheelin' his on the Goodyear MT/R with Kevlar; in the 32" size those are Load Rating C!!!

So I guess that the only rational answer to your question is the scenario in which you are balancing a 6000+ lb vehicle on 2 tires. How often does that really happen? Quite a bit. You've heard from a few folks on the board that have been on 2 wheels; add me to that list.

By the way, which D-rated tires are you considering?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DavC
The usual get E rated tires comes from people who have owned and used these cars for a long time.

Unless you have extensive prior experience with a discovery 3 and D rated tires I would just fess up and say you flat out disagree with the recommendation, but saying you think that everyone who makes that recommendation after years of driving is wrong, is somewhat strange.

This is from someone who used D rated tires, and did not like it.
Would you read my post again? You seem to be taking this personally.

Originally Posted by m_lars
I would certainly agree there's been a lot of discussion on tire size. In terms of weight rating I have not seen any discussion, but hey, it's easy to miss. There's a lot of data out there. What I've read is "get an E rated tire", end of discussion. I'm not trying to convince anyone else to switch, I am trying to determine why people go with the heavier tire when it may not be necessary. It's a personality flaw, I don't follow the because I said so logic. On road it's certainly not necessary, but we're discussing wheelin' so maybe it is necessary.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by houm_wa
I stand corrected on the Sequoia weight comment; I'm surprised at how heavy those beasts are. My comment on Sequoias and Pathfinders not being the 4x4 that the LR3 is was based on the notion that while yes, they are 4WD, they really aren't built for the purpose of technical trail work and you won't find many of them (any of them?) on the trails really stressing their tires. Maybe a Pathfinder but doubtful you'll see a Sequoia out there, ever. Point being, we are talking about a specific use-case, technical off-roading, and the Pathfinder and Sequoia become moot.


By the way, which D-rated tires are you considering?
I'm looking at Falken Wildpeak AT3W and the General Grabber AT2. Both are available in load range 116 and 124.

Here is the Sequioa and Pathfinder mentioned sandwiching an 80 Series Cruiser and one of the Sequoia high centered. There a many of these types of rigs out there and we defiantly drove them hard. I sold the Pathfinder the day before we moved to Utah. You would be surprised at how capable that little squirt was, not to mention the whole rig cost me less than a set of Duratracs or BFG's.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by djkronik57
Load ratings, as a safety measurement, are going to be conservative. You aren't going to pop a tire the second you get on two wheels if you exceed the load rating. You definitely wouldn't want to take a long highway trip on two wheels, but the chances of that happening are slim.
Originally Posted by houm_wa
So I guess that the only rational answer to your question is the scenario in which you are balancing a 6000+ lb vehicle on 2 tires. How often does that really happen? Quite a bit. You've heard from a few folks on the board that have been on 2 wheels; add me to that list.
The first quote has been my train of thought in this whole discussion. Yes, you can balance on 2 wheels. Yes, it may be common. Do you park it there and eat lunch, no. The amount of time you are dangling 2 wheels is a pretty low percentage. Heck, how often do you go out wheeling at your maximum GVWR?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by m_lars
Heck, how often do you go out wheeling at your maximum GVWR?
You would be surprised...

Originally Posted by m_lars
Would you read my post again? You seem to be taking this personally.
Nope. Don't really care either way. Just wish someone advised me stronger to get E rated tires when I asked the same questions. Do what you want with that.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by m_lars
Heck, how often do you go out wheeling at your maximum GVWR?
More than I care to admit, I was in one LR3 for a week that was easily 2-3000 over max.
 
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