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What type of CAN bus is the medium speed BUS

Old Dec 25, 2015 | 06:20 PM
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Default What type of CAN bus is the medium speed BUS

So I have been trying to learn me something about the CAN system on the LR3, but I am no expert, and I am little confused about the Medium Speed...

From wikipedia I have this about high speed CAN - "ISO 11898-2, also called high speed CAN, uses a linear bus terminated at each end with 120 Ω resistors"

That lines up with the LR3, but wikipedia only references low-speed CAN "ISO 11898-3, also called low speed or fault tolerant CAN, uses a linear bus, star bus or multiple star buses connected by a linear bus and is terminated at each node by a fraction of the overall termination resistance. The overall termination resistance should be about 100 Ω, but not less than 100 Ω."

Land rover documents I have read about the CAN bus mention that some control modules are connected using a 'spur' connection, which to me suggests low speed CAN, but I can't find which modules are connected in a spur configuration.

CAN Buses are standardized systems mandated by OBDII. So I don't think land rover has much wiggle room in deviation. My question is basically this; is the medium speed CAN a high speed or low speed CAN? Oh and does anyone know which modules are 'spur' connected?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 12:20 AM
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What I want to know is - what are you planning to do with this knowledge? Because I suspect you have something specific in mind.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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This is more of a fact finding exercise for now, I am trying to understand the operation of the computer system, so I can troubleshoot it when I have problems
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 06:11 PM
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Ms-can is a ford proprietary can bus. None of the items on it are safety or emissions related, so they don't have to meet the obdii standards.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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I found a reference to baud speed in one of the LR3 manuals. With the MS being lower. I am of the belief that both are 'High-speed' as per OBD standardization, but the network baud rates are different
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 02:36 AM
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You might try asking GAP for specs, they've been working with the interface for some time now so I imagine they've got a great handle on how it works.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Isn't a large portion of the system based around fiber-optics? Or possible just the audio out of the DVD-amp which is TOSLINK but I thought most of the entertainment was fiber? Not sure if that helps at all.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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The MOSTbus is fiber optic.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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I'm getting old. This sort of talk makes me long for the old days when all you needed was 12v plus some fuel and you were in business.

I'm becoming a dinosaur.

Of course, I know Volkov is trying to go even simpler than that on his 101 and do away with even the need for 12v. Though I want to see him pump up that air starter by hand - I'll be sure to have a cold beer waiting in my 12v fridge for once he's done.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2015 | 02:32 AM
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Pumping up my air starter tanks by hand is a last resort option. If I don't have a compressor, and can't push start the truck, i have a plan C

Redundancy is a good thing, you can say that again
 
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