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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscoNight5
e-calls, stolen vehicle, remote functions (locks, remote start, etc) apparently operate across 3G, they will be moved to operate on an available 2G network. (T-mobile, for example, still has their 2G GSM network available...until they eventually sunset it too)
Seriously doubt it "they" would switch to a 2G network. Do you know the implications for that ? Huge, even if TMO would agree to do it. Not trying to burst your bubble here, but TMO is shutting down 2G by EOY '22. I am surprised they kept it that long.
My suspicion is that JLR will throw in a voucher for 1 year free data on your next vehicle you buy from them. It is economically unfeasible for them to change all the modems remaining in service today. But, then again, I could be wrong (it happened once or twice in my life before )
 
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mechano2020
Seriously doubt it "they" would switch to a 2G network. Do you know the implications for that ? Huge, even if TMO would agree to do it. Not trying to burst your bubble here, but TMO is shutting down 2G by EOY '22. I am surprised they kept it that long.
My suspicion is that JLR will throw in a voucher for 1 year free data on your next vehicle you buy from them. It is economically unfeasible for them to change all the modems remaining in service today. But, then again, I could be wrong (it happened once or twice in my life before )
no bubble here, just relaying what I was told. :-) Information could change between now and JLRs official announcements about it.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 05:04 PM
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It allowed me to buy a new subscription.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 06:47 PM
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Oh boy. Interesting. Sadly it doesn't mean they can actually provide the service to MY2017s.

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It allowed me to buy a new subscription.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 11:40 PM
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It allowed me to buy a new subscription.
3G subscription ??
That is intriguing.
Let us know in March if that is still working please.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 06:49 PM
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Last I heard industry is pushing to delay sunset until December 2022. Something about medical devices and alarm systems. It's weird that there's a FCC filing saying there's 260k affected JLR vehicles. That is one lawyered up customer group I'd guess.

And in other news, Massachusetts residents will soon be excluded from any telematics services what so ever:

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...st-us-retailer

You literally can't make this stuff up. E bike, anyone?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 11:07 AM
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In line with what Dinkeldorf was saying:
https://www.securityinfowatch.com/al...is-almost-here
"The security industry – led by organizations like the Electronic Security Association (ESA) and the Alarm Industry Communications Committee (AICC) of The Monitoring Association – has been fighting for many months in an attempt to persuade AT&T to extend its deadline."
"For its part, AT&T argues, among other things, that the security industry has had years to upgrade older devices; that the FCC does not have jurisdiction over this issue;"

Sounds like it's going to be an interesting Feb 2022. Both my AT&T and Remote plans are up for renewal, I'll wait till March before adding them back.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DiscoNight5
"For its part, AT&T argues, among other things, that the security industry has had years to upgrade older devices; that the FCC does not have jurisdiction over this issue;"
I hate ATT as much as the next guy, but here ATT is right. They have announced this almost 4 years ago.
If the "security / alarm" industry sat on their collective buts, is only their own making. Upgrading equipment is expensive, I get it. But they did not even tried.
JLR (and other car manufacturers) are in the same boat. Did nothing - zilch, to update the old equipment. Why bother, when you can sell 'em a new car !?
So yeah, let's shift the blame on some one else ... typical.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 10:18 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 09:32 AM
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I've been bugging Land Rover about this issue on my 2016 Discovery Sport, with no resolution. They basically told me, "We'll contact you with a solution.". I also got the line that 'your car doesn't use 3g, it connects to our servers directly.'. That's bogus; we all know the cars use the cell networks to talk to JLR. We'll just continue on with our ears to the rails. Even Subaru and Chevrolet have web pages dedicated to the 3G shutdown.
 
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