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Old 04-06-2021, 03:33 PM
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And I think Tasman Blue and Pangea are outstanding, with Gondwana Stone a very close third. I would be happy with any of those. I am biased towards actual colors though, as opposed to black, white, silver gray.

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Old 04-06-2021, 05:15 PM
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The last 5 autos I've purchased have been black. The problem with black is that if it is not freshly cleaned, it looks dirty. The grays and silvers hide the rain spots and dirt better.
 
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Old 04-06-2021, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by goblue21
My dealer said both heated seats ($500 option on 2021) and wireless charging ($??? option on 2021) are now standard for 2022. So the price hike doesn't exactly coincide with $1,600 in standard equipment.
Air Suspension is an option on Defender 90s.......$1,600!!!.........Maybe its now an option on Base Defender 110s for 2022
 
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Old 04-07-2021, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Barstoolman1127
Air Suspension is an option on Defender 90s.......$1,600!!!.........Maybe its now an option on Base Defender 110s for 2022
For the USA only the 110 X and V8 models have air suspension standard per my dealer.

The my22 press release indicates the new XS model also has air suspension standard, but my dealer says that is not correct. Is the UK XS model has air suspension standard.
 
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Old 04-07-2021, 04:22 PM
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Has anyone driven both coil spring and air suspension versions of New Defenders back to back? Is the ride quality that much different?
 
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Old 04-07-2021, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by goblue21
Has anyone driven both coil spring and air suspension versions of New Defenders back to back? Is the ride quality that much different?
I wish. It was fully my intent to do that but the only 90 they received at my local dealer was a first edition so it had air as standard. Over the past several months I had put together 90 build after 90 build with the coils but when crunch time finally arrived and I had to order I didn't want to take the chance, because if were to order it without a test ride and found the ride quality was a notch below the air suspension then I'd be stuck with it for years after that.

My hunch is that it will be fine with coils. One poster out here reminded me that with the coils you won't be able to lower it down for any older relatives, my dad has needed rides to the doctors from time to time, he's in his 70s now. As much as I didn't want to spend the extra $1600 it's actually a very good point the gentleman made. Even my teenage son stepping out from the back seat to the ground in that 90 I tested, he's 6 foot 2 and it's a long stretch to the ground from the back seat. Having the capability to lower the vehicle down in this situation is actually the right thing to do and of course raising it from time to time is also nice to have.

 
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Old 04-07-2021, 09:10 PM
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I had coil springs on my '03 Discovery and loved the ride. For the Defender, I opted to go for the air suspension for similar reasons to those stated by Chief65. My wife is 5'4, and if I couldn't lower the vehicle she'd want me to get some sort of side steps (no thanks!). I don't think she'd like the look of the Lucky 8 sliders. Also, being able to raise to off-road height is a nice option.
 
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HPat
2022 MY order guide for US. The quality is pretty bad, but that's what I got from my rep. Most notable changes are that the air suspension is only standard on X and V8 models. All other models get coil suspension as standard and air suspension is I think an $1600 option (the resolution of the pdf is crappy, so it's hard to make out). The Meridian Surround Sound system is now standard on SE, XD SE and XD HSE. Clearsight mirror is now being replaced with Auto-dimming rear view mirror as standard on SE, XD SE and XD HSE. Sliding panoramic roof is also standard on SE, XD SE and XD HSE. There are more changes, but these are the ones that are listed separately in the guide.
And finally, the larger screen is a $140 option on all the models.
Did you notice in the order guide that 14 Way Climate Front Row Seats are N/A for all models? How do I get heated/cooled seats?
 
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:52 AM
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I think it is only available on HSE and X Defender My wife has a Valar p340 S that has heated/cooled seats so you would expect a certain amount of consistency across trim levels. For some bizarre reason I could not order refrigerated cool box in my 2022 Defender which does not make sense at all.
 
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Old 04-11-2021, 07:38 AM
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So one of the YouTuber's I follow did a 180 on his view of the Defender and it's pretty sad especially after all the good reviews he did about the vehicle and had been recommending it for 6 months. Here is the review:
 
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