I'm a bit of a Hippie - I embraced EFI systems on motorcycles because they run cleaner with less maintenance. I run stock mufflers and stock mapping on the entire fleet, despite the unintended consequences of poor fueling in certain circumstances, but I'm ok with that to be a little greener.

BUT I HATE Auto stop/start systems.

Maybe they have a global effect in the big picture, but maybe they don't.

You'd have to weigh fuel saved and emissions reduced vs the additional cost/complexity of materials at build and durability of those systems. If it requires bigger heavier starters and batteries, does that offset any environmental benefit? What happens to the equation if these components need more frequent replacement?

Nope, I don't like em, I deactivate every single time I drive. And if I forget I kick myself as soon as a I feel the first restart. Which just makes me bitter against the politicians that have forced these systems on us.

Vehicles are bigger, heavier, and more expensive than ever before. I wonder how much greater an environmental impact could be made on that side of the equation instead of just choking the motors and making them shut down at each stop.

 

That guy might be bananas but... balloons do move with the wind.




And

 

l've selected stop/start cancel on the user configured steering wheel button which is easier to press than having to use the one on the console.

 

Perfectly stated.
I have a daughter majoring in Environmental Sciences and her professors have made her realize it's a very complicated issue.
Like mentioned above, there are end to end impacts on the environment not just the emissions with cars that have auto stop/start (and unless every car on the road had this, it is negligible if any positive impact). For instance, how many mines and large equipment (carbon footprint) does it take to source battery components? What's the impact on disposing these batteries when not all can be recycled. It's this "overall" impact that many don't think about when discussing topics on climate change. It's a very complicated issue for sure.

 

As above.

Bizarrely l actually find the stop/start emotionally disturbing when it shuts the engine off.

l think it somehow disturbs my equilibrium

 

I've got a 2023 Defender and there is no user defined button on the steering wheel, at least not that I've found yet, nor can I find any reference to one in the owners manual. Now my wife's 2020 Velar SV has one, but not on my Defender.

 

This topic has some long legs. Lots of opinions, and lots of grousing. Will everyone love every facet of every minute detail in their lives? Absolutely not. I personally don’t care for the Auto/Stop/Start either, but it’s there, and it’s not going away. I employ the highly technical solution provided and Voila’, in 3/10ths of a second, I push the button on the dash right after hitting the ignition button, and precisely before I put on my seat belt, you know those things people griped about when they became mandatory, but now has become part of our lives and put them on without a second thought. It becomes muscle memory after a few tries. Life is hard, then you die. Simple equation. But it’s not some conspiracy to make our lives miserable. Unless you let it.

 

lt's a little diamond on the left side of the steering wheel
Top right on the button unit.

My Defender is the lead-in spec Commercial so l doubt yours won't have the button, although l did specify the leather heated wheel.

 

I find that a highly sarcastic straw man argument that completely misses the unintended consequences that we all must continue to live with whether they further the stated purpose or not.

But yes, live with it we will.

 

I actually do agree with you. I despise Auto Stop/Start as much as the next guy, and hated the feature from the first vehicle I owned that included it. And I also wish it could be turned off in settings, like I did with Brake Hold. But, alas, for whatever stated purpose auto makers now include it, whether by choice or force, I second your motion, and yes we will live with it. My unintended sarcasm was to wryly point out that within a few weeks of ownership, it becomes programmed into one’s psyche and subconsciously becomes part of the sequence of beginning a drive, much like starting the vehicle, fastening your seat belt, choosing one’s musical selection, putting your cup of coffee in the cup holder, etc. So pushing that button is actually such a no-brainer that I no longer even think about it. Over time, it will become a non-issue. Turning off Emergency Braking and Emergency Lane Keeping requires numerous steps that has received little attention compared to the one press to disable Auto Stop/Start. I’ll reserve my angst for that shortcoming, but wonder how many others disable those before each drive. I personally hate my vehicle slamming on its brakes, or jerking the wheel with no warning when neither is necessary nor required.