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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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I'm running 245/75 ATs with the stock suspension and my truck does fine. Mileage has only suffered slightly considering it's age and 172K on the clock.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by binvanna
This matches my experience. With 2" and under, the stock driveshaft works fine. Even with more than 2" lift you can still use a single cardon driveshaft but it does have to be longer than stock. I actually have a DC but I can see by the angles that it's totally unnecessary, but I needed the extra length and it came with the DC so I didn't complain. A single-cardon is stronger and more durable unless it's at too much of an angle for its design.

For 32's you want to regear. You don't have to, but you'll want to sooner or later. If you take it offroad, you'll break the 2 pin carrier and eventually you will break the axle shaft as well. It's not that the 32's will pop the axles because you're suddenly exceeding their ultimate strength with the 32's. No. But the 32's, in off-road conditions are going to push the yield limit of the axle again and again until at some point the axle will give way fairly easily. You can plan to put stock shafts in every year or two or upgrade. But if you don't upgrade the carrier it won't be as simple as swapping shafts out.
The problem I had with the stock front shaft was that it was just about extended as far as it would go. There wasn't that much of the splines left engaged.

I totally disagree about needing to regear. I've been running 265/75/16's for 3 years now and I have had zero pin carrier, axle, or any other breakage for that matter and I'm running stock gearing. Just about everybody I know is running 32's and 33's on stock gearing and they've broken nothing as well. I've wheeled all over the place in all kinds of conditions. My stock axle shafts have no twisting whatsoever. I just can't see the kind of damage you're talking about occurring with open diffs.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fishEH
The problem I had with the stock front shaft was that it was just about extended as far as it would go. There wasn't that much of the splines left engaged.

I totally disagree about needing to regear. I've been running 265/75/16's for 3 years now and I have had zero pin carrier, axle, or any other breakage for that matter and I'm running stock gearing. Just about everybody I know is running 32's and 33's on stock gearing and they've broken nothing as well. I've wheeled all over the place in all kinds of conditions. My stock axle shafts have no twisting whatsoever. I just can't see the kind of damage you're talking about occurring with open diffs.
I'm with brett. I pull a pontoon on 265s and stock gears. Been running and wheeling them a while with no issues. I've also seen plenty of people wheel the hell out of 285s with no issues. Obviously 4.10s, lockers, and axles are preferable but they are not a must until you jump up to 35s. Just resist the inner redneck and stay out of the skinny pedal!
 
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