4.6/hp24 into 4.0/hp22
Hey, I bet everyone thinks I got frustrated, set my Land Rover on fire, and rolled it down the hill. No, but close.
All of the little things I had to find made this project maddening. As did the weather. Just today the cam end plug arrived and the new 4.6 is on the crane and ready to install.
So here's the question. My hp22 works fine. I am contemplating keeping it in until it fails, if ever. The alternative is to swap in the hp24 but that also requires changing the mounts from the bell housing back. If I keep the original should I swap the torque converter? Or should I just swap it all?
All of the little things I had to find made this project maddening. As did the weather. Just today the cam end plug arrived and the new 4.6 is on the crane and ready to install.
So here's the question. My hp22 works fine. I am contemplating keeping it in until it fails, if ever. The alternative is to swap in the hp24 but that also requires changing the mounts from the bell housing back. If I keep the original should I swap the torque converter? Or should I just swap it all?
I've been following your build and it's not like you've built some crazy horsepower monster. Personally, I'd slap it in as is. Keep the 24 just in case (I've got an extra in my garage too) and don't worry about it.
I woke up this morning to put everything in and it is raining. Texas is turning into a swamp. Ugh.
Yea, there's several converted trucks around with the 22 trans. Theres even quite a few converted D1s on factory trans. I'm not sure what the D1 had, but my first guess is the 22.
Haha, you're just trying to make my head big. The compliment is appreciated.
Haha, you're just trying to make my head big. The compliment is appreciated.
Well this is interesting. My zero rust rover had cheese crossmember bolts--yeah I decided to just do the transmission swap. I got all but three bolts out normally and cut the last three with no damage. But getting the cut bolts out is fun. Turning to the exhaust, also difficult bolts and nuts. Today is the day. Everything going in no matter what. First sunny day in quite awhile.
This story has a sad ending. My newly redone engine hydrolocked. Yeah.
So I pulled it to figure out what went wrong and put my old engine in. A lot of work. I put my old engine in and it sounded funny, so I immediately turned it off. The oil smelled like gas. The tailpipe smelled like gas. I checked everything... plugs (had a pending misfire on 8), swapped the wires, checked the coolant for oil, and even changed the coil. The culprit was a stuck fuel injector on 8. These were the same injectors I used on the redone engine, in the same spot. I pulled it out and could blow air through it. I have several others so I put another one in and it worked after I changed the oil.
So, in short, my new engine was ruined by a fuel injector. Lesson for the future is to have all fuel injectors checked before breaking in an engine. Even known good ones.
So I pulled it to figure out what went wrong and put my old engine in. A lot of work. I put my old engine in and it sounded funny, so I immediately turned it off. The oil smelled like gas. The tailpipe smelled like gas. I checked everything... plugs (had a pending misfire on 8), swapped the wires, checked the coolant for oil, and even changed the coil. The culprit was a stuck fuel injector on 8. These were the same injectors I used on the redone engine, in the same spot. I pulled it out and could blow air through it. I have several others so I put another one in and it worked after I changed the oil.
So, in short, my new engine was ruined by a fuel injector. Lesson for the future is to have all fuel injectors checked before breaking in an engine. Even known good ones.
Oh jeez, Charlie. I feel for you. So the cylinder just filled all up with gas because of a bad injector?
Did it hydrolock on starting or after the engine was already running? If it locked on starting, there's a pretty good chance it's still ok. If it locked while already running... well, condolences.
Did it hydrolock on starting or after the engine was already running? If it locked on starting, there's a pretty good chance it's still ok. If it locked while already running... well, condolences.
Thanks guys. I'm more disappointed than anything at least my old engine no longer leaks oil (new seals from my extras) and has a nice, tight timing chain. And I can pretty much swap an engine in a few hours. I'm not sure that will ever be useful but I'm trying to be positive.
It locked on start. I plan to take the heads off and soak the rings in oil. If I can move the crank I'll check the cylinder walls. It may be salvageable. Of course I had new bearings, rings, honed cylinders, turned crank and brand new cam, etc... so I'm expecting the worst
When I dumped the oil it looked like dirty gasoline. It was BAD. More like water than oil. I've confirmed all of the other injectors so one bad one really is all it takes to ruin an engine.
It locked on start. I plan to take the heads off and soak the rings in oil. If I can move the crank I'll check the cylinder walls. It may be salvageable. Of course I had new bearings, rings, honed cylinders, turned crank and brand new cam, etc... so I'm expecting the worst
When I dumped the oil it looked like dirty gasoline. It was BAD. More like water than oil. I've confirmed all of the other injectors so one bad one really is all it takes to ruin an engine.
Last edited by Charlie_V; Nov 19, 2015 at 02:06 PM.


