ProShaft Front Drive Shaft
TReK
Joined: Aug 2011
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No problem Justin! Dont give up on the business and dont let negativity pull you down. Your reputation and quality products will speak for themselves. Now that all the tech info has been revealed to the public there should be no question. But you were kind enough to provide your personal cell and email so that just goes to show your character. I do wish you the best of luck and thanks for all your help. Great no EXCELLENT customer service! Keep up the good work.
PS: Thanks for keeping a neutral un-bashful position. It shows your professionalism even in the face of criticism. Keep us posted on weather or not you get a website up and running and dont forget to link your ebay store to this forum so people here can check it out and read your reviews.
PS: Thanks for keeping a neutral un-bashful position. It shows your professionalism even in the face of criticism. Keep us posted on weather or not you get a website up and running and dont forget to link your ebay store to this forum so people here can check it out and read your reviews.
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Mudding
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: In the Disco!
CANAMdiscovery -
Let it go!
The one thing that sucks about this forum, like all others, is when people have to keep pointing the finger back and forth at one another... let it go!
Let it go!
The one thing that sucks about this forum, like all others, is when people have to keep pointing the finger back and forth at one another... let it go!
Winching
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 598
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From: Swampy Sandbar, USA
I do not doubt Tom Woods personally nor his reputation. But I question the bad attitude of someone who so strongly believes in TW products.......
Mongo is beginning to misrepresent Tom Woods with his bad attitude, and it turns me away from even considering Tom Woods products.
Mongo is beginning to misrepresent Tom Woods with his bad attitude, and it turns me away from even considering Tom Woods products.
Super Moderator
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 16,322
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From: Savannah Georgia
OK, so if I read all this correctly,
The shafts for the Disco 2 come from a place in Chicago, and are built the same way ProshaftLLC would build them if they were building these small shafts in quantity.
Let us assume for discussion that the Chicago area source is the factory.
The first rule of business is make enough money to stay in business. The distributor ProshaftLLC is expected to make a profit. It is what makes the economy run.
Unless the factory gives exclusive territory style contracts, I suspect that the factory will soon seek out large volume retailers, such as AB and Rovers not South, and go direct with them. That will leave the individual sales market for the distributor ProshaftLLC. And that is not a bad market, there are frequently 300+ persons viewing the D2 forum on this site. Every D2 owner who has not upgraded the prop shaft is a potential customer. Of course one way to keep the factory from going direct is offer drop shipping for the mass marketers, and keep a modest qunatity on hand.
Participating on this site brings the signature line, and that is a small "free" billboard, which runs under the radar of the ad department of the site owner. It is a win-win situation when a person with expertise repsonds to posts, and threads have a very long life and plenty of views.
As an example, my signature contains reference posts for ECU manuals. About 8,000 views for the D2 one. Me post whinning because Nissens Radiator has a swanky web site, great reputation, and slaps their box on a lesser quality made by someone else radiator (for Mercedes W124), about 70 views. You'll get more flies with honey.
Some one that makes factual posts, incudes pix for us that are visual vs. verbal, is great. Someone who could speak to the fellows that modify their suspension as to limits of the stock shafts and how to measure for a custom one would be helpful.
Business owners have to be selective about their associates, either employees or consultants, etc. Out on the trail near me people have found that once a skunk gets in the truck with you, it can take awhile to get all the skunk smell off of you.
The shafts for the Disco 2 come from a place in Chicago, and are built the same way ProshaftLLC would build them if they were building these small shafts in quantity.
Let us assume for discussion that the Chicago area source is the factory.
The first rule of business is make enough money to stay in business. The distributor ProshaftLLC is expected to make a profit. It is what makes the economy run.
Unless the factory gives exclusive territory style contracts, I suspect that the factory will soon seek out large volume retailers, such as AB and Rovers not South, and go direct with them. That will leave the individual sales market for the distributor ProshaftLLC. And that is not a bad market, there are frequently 300+ persons viewing the D2 forum on this site. Every D2 owner who has not upgraded the prop shaft is a potential customer. Of course one way to keep the factory from going direct is offer drop shipping for the mass marketers, and keep a modest qunatity on hand.
Participating on this site brings the signature line, and that is a small "free" billboard, which runs under the radar of the ad department of the site owner. It is a win-win situation when a person with expertise repsonds to posts, and threads have a very long life and plenty of views.
As an example, my signature contains reference posts for ECU manuals. About 8,000 views for the D2 one. Me post whinning because Nissens Radiator has a swanky web site, great reputation, and slaps their box on a lesser quality made by someone else radiator (for Mercedes W124), about 70 views. You'll get more flies with honey.
Some one that makes factual posts, incudes pix for us that are visual vs. verbal, is great. Someone who could speak to the fellows that modify their suspension as to limits of the stock shafts and how to measure for a custom one would be helpful.
Business owners have to be selective about their associates, either employees or consultants, etc. Out on the trail near me people have found that once a skunk gets in the truck with you, it can take awhile to get all the skunk smell off of you.
Last edited by Savannah Buzz; Jan 22, 2013 at 07:59 AM.
Camel Trophy
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,079
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From: IL
Justin, way to stay professional. It says a lot about your character. Regardless if you agree with someone or not I feel its of huge importance for business owners to be respectful and remain professional. This was something that SILVER was not able to do, unfortunately. I wish you luck in your business.
TIRARII, give it a rest man. If Mongo is "misrepresenting Tom Woods" then you're doing the exact same thing with Justin/ProShaft. Kettle, meet pot. Your logic is foolish and everybody is entitled to their opinion. You don't have to agree with it but you do have to acknowledge they're allowed to have it. Sometimes its best to agree to disagree.
TIRARII, give it a rest man. If Mongo is "misrepresenting Tom Woods" then you're doing the exact same thing with Justin/ProShaft. Kettle, meet pot. Your logic is foolish and everybody is entitled to their opinion. You don't have to agree with it but you do have to acknowledge they're allowed to have it. Sometimes its best to agree to disagree.
Because Land Rovers are the only vehicles that use drive shafts, obviously.
Baja
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,232
Likes: 52
From: Georgia, USA
That says a lot. You're the kind of drive that be better off with sealed u-joints than greaseable ones. They'll last longer.
If you're not going to religiously grease them every oil change sealed is better.
If you're not going to religiously grease them every oil change sealed is better.
Three Wheeling
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 69
Likes: 1
You guy's are incredible...This is like buying 10 Oil filters from Britparts, painting them blue, putting them in a different box, claim it as a product you build, and then sell them at a premium price.
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
From: Little Rock, AR
Savannah,
I'm always more than happy to provide custom length drive shafts to anyone with a modified suspension. I'd also like to provide a "how-to" in regards to measuring for custom shafts. Also, does anyone have any tomato juice to help me get rid of this skunk smell? Hehe. Thanks again for the advice.
Best,
Justin
I'm always more than happy to provide custom length drive shafts to anyone with a modified suspension. I'd also like to provide a "how-to" in regards to measuring for custom shafts. Also, does anyone have any tomato juice to help me get rid of this skunk smell? Hehe. Thanks again for the advice.
Best,
Justin
