95 Disco I 3.9 to 300D Turbo Diesel Conversion
Saw all of them except this one http://njlr.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=659
this is new since i was deep in research. This is all new to me.
i like especially the the franko's version of the motor mounts. square tube stock looks like 3/16 or almost 1/4 inch. I have a 98 that I just ripped out a motor and have a core zf4hp22 that should have the same belll housing as r380.... here are some pics from today. difficult to comment on pics until they show up in thread...
In white is my HDPE plate approx 3/4 in and i took a spray can to the back of my core zf4hp22 bell housing /// new comers know i will be using R380 manual and NOT a zf4hp22 auto box. I did this print assuming the r380 and zf4hp22 auto bellhousing are the same.
Here is a 4.0 out, a om617 out, as well as a 240D manua flywheel mounted up to the 98 4.0 with BMW flywheel and there is absolutely no play in drive plate from bmw to OD of my 240 flywheel. The benz 3.0 5 cyl om617 absolutely drwarfs the 4.0 rover v8. Un believable!
I have to swap out the break booster and pedal pate and a few other things.
Comments and questions welcome.
this is new since i was deep in research. This is all new to me.
i like especially the the franko's version of the motor mounts. square tube stock looks like 3/16 or almost 1/4 inch. I have a 98 that I just ripped out a motor and have a core zf4hp22 that should have the same belll housing as r380.... here are some pics from today. difficult to comment on pics until they show up in thread...
In white is my HDPE plate approx 3/4 in and i took a spray can to the back of my core zf4hp22 bell housing /// new comers know i will be using R380 manual and NOT a zf4hp22 auto box. I did this print assuming the r380 and zf4hp22 auto bellhousing are the same.
Here is a 4.0 out, a om617 out, as well as a 240D manua flywheel mounted up to the 98 4.0 with BMW flywheel and there is absolutely no play in drive plate from bmw to OD of my 240 flywheel. The benz 3.0 5 cyl om617 absolutely drwarfs the 4.0 rover v8. Un believable!
I have to swap out the break booster and pedal pate and a few other things.
Comments and questions welcome.
I like the way you used spray pant to get a outline of the adapter, creative! I'm going to look into that HDPE, I would have to search locally and see if I have that material as a possibility. If not to make a template for a transfer to something else. I too like Franko's engine mounts, nice solid simple. I just wonder if there will be a way around some of those upper pan modifications. Cutting and welding the lower (metal) oil pan is one thing... but the upper pan would need to be TIG welded by someone who really knows what they are doing. From what I understand its tricky welding to cast aluminum.
I'm a little confused about the BMW bit you posted though? Am I missing something?
"BMW flywheel and there is absolutely no play in drive plate from bmw to OD of my 240 flywheel."
Thanks Man!
Great post raeuspius thanks!
I like the way you used spray pant to get a outline of the adapter, creative! I'm going to look into that HDPE, I would have to search locally and see if I have that material as a possibility. If not to make a template for a transfer to something else. I too like Franko's engine mounts, nice solid simple. I just wonder if there will be a way around some of those upper pan modifications. Cutting and welding the lower (metal) oil pan is one thing... but the upper pan would need to be TIG welded by someone who really knows what they are doing. From what I understand its tricky welding to cast aluminum.
I'm a little confused about the BMW bit you posted though? Am I missing something?
"BMW flywheel and there is absolutely no play in drive plate from bmw to OD of my 240 flywheel."
Thanks Man!
I like the way you used spray pant to get a outline of the adapter, creative! I'm going to look into that HDPE, I would have to search locally and see if I have that material as a possibility. If not to make a template for a transfer to something else. I too like Franko's engine mounts, nice solid simple. I just wonder if there will be a way around some of those upper pan modifications. Cutting and welding the lower (metal) oil pan is one thing... but the upper pan would need to be TIG welded by someone who really knows what they are doing. From what I understand its tricky welding to cast aluminum.
I'm a little confused about the BMW bit you posted though? Am I missing something?
"BMW flywheel and there is absolutely no play in drive plate from bmw to OD of my 240 flywheel."
Thanks Man!
Oh and on the HDPE you may find it in an industrial kitchen for cutting surface. Do you have a restaurant auction house or used restaurant equipment place near by? pick up a used cutting board.
I priced nylon but found it more expensive as well the milling and threading qualities are lacking threaded inserts or sex bolts would have to be used. Nylon flexes too much but at the thickness of 3/4" it may be an option.
I priced nylon but found it more expensive as well the milling and threading qualities are lacking threaded inserts or sex bolts would have to be used. Nylon flexes too much but at the thickness of 3/4" it may be an option.
98 discovery has BMW flywheel and if you haven't needed to pull your fuel pump yet, I hate to spoil the surprise but you are going to find the lock ring is embossed with BMW.
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Progress small but something. I recently rebuilt the top end on my 98 so it was worth something to someone else that could use it. so today I pulled it for transplant for the buyer. Good news and progress as now I have my engine compartment empty and I can toy around with a mockup.
This will allow me to see clearance of om617 to the firewall and prep mount placement. I remember reading that a 30deg tilt will allow valve cover removal for valve adjustment. I will check valves while it is out of course. Time to wire up my Lincoln 225 welder wired and practice with scrap. I got it on CL for 60.00 about a year ago for this project. I have a wire in my attic that used to power a pool heater so BONUS!!!! Don't have to spend big money on copper.
This will allow me to see clearance of om617 to the firewall and prep mount placement. I remember reading that a 30deg tilt will allow valve cover removal for valve adjustment. I will check valves while it is out of course. Time to wire up my Lincoln 225 welder wired and practice with scrap. I got it on CL for 60.00 about a year ago for this project. I have a wire in my attic that used to power a pool heater so BONUS!!!! Don't have to spend big money on copper.
Having the V8 out of the disco is going to be HUGE. Please take as many pictures as you can regarding any fitment issues. I have a feeling that future swappers looking into this particular conversion will be using your thread as a bible for their land rover application.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
Having the V8 out of the disco is going to be HUGE. Please take as many pictures as you can regarding any fitment issues. I have a feeling that future swappers looking into this particular conversion will be using your thread as a bible for their land rover application.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
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Having the V8 out of the disco is going to be HUGE. Please take as many pictures as you can regarding any fitment issues. I have a feeling that future swappers looking into this particular conversion will be using your thread as a bible for their land rover application.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
Is the Lincoln 225 a arc welder? I recently bought a MIG Miller that can do up to 1/2" supposedly.
I will say this. I am close. Once it is complete, I think I will start a new "complete build" thread and without all the gaps in time where I was physically not here to progress or have life changing impedance. Less clutter and speculation and wasting foks time with "What if", or "What the fu*k"
As to whom are here and stay, I will continue this thread to completion.
Yes it is a arch / stick welder. I have the v8 out of the recipient but the issue is that my manual trans is in the daily driver. I am in kind of a pickle. I never welded before, I need the manual trans out to measure the centre point to bore out the crank hole, then with the adapter material fitted, clamped and drilled; I can see if I have to use the infamous "DISK" that caused confusion to extend the crank or see if it be more appropriate to Nix the disk and go straight for a pilot bushing or bearing.
I will say this. I am close. Once it is complete, I think I will start a new "complete build" thread and without all the gaps in time where I was physically not here to progress or have life changing impedance. Less clutter and speculation and wasting foks time with "What if", or "What the fu*k"
As to whom are here and stay, I will continue this thread to completion.
I will say this. I am close. Once it is complete, I think I will start a new "complete build" thread and without all the gaps in time where I was physically not here to progress or have life changing impedance. Less clutter and speculation and wasting foks time with "What if", or "What the fu*k"
As to whom are here and stay, I will continue this thread to completion.
I'm very surprised this thread isn't getting more attention, I think that many members have just come to ignore "diesel discovery" threads. I know that if you do take the time and document with pictures and commentary you will have a big hit on the forum.
Rooting for ya man!, if I get a chance to look and get this discovery I'm looking at, I'll be sure to let you know so I can try to help to get everything together quicker.
Arc can be tricky, but let youtube be your guide with scrap pieces of metal you have laying around. There are a bunch of good videos on the subject. I MIGHT be going to look at a 95 Disco 5 Speed this weekend if I get the time, its a little ways out and I need to talk with the seller a little bit more. If I do, I'd rip the engine/transmission out first thing and measure and note every possible useful dimensions for later reference. I would hope that would help you in your situation as well. We will just have to wait and see I guess.
I'm very surprised this thread isn't getting more attention, I think that many members have just come to ignore "diesel discovery" threads. I know that if you do take the time and document with pictures and commentary you will have a big hit on the forum.
Rooting for ya man!, if I get a chance to look and get this discovery I'm looking at, I'll be sure to let you know so I can try to help to get everything together quicker.
I'm very surprised this thread isn't getting more attention, I think that many members have just come to ignore "diesel discovery" threads. I know that if you do take the time and document with pictures and commentary you will have a big hit on the forum.
Rooting for ya man!, if I get a chance to look and get this discovery I'm looking at, I'll be sure to let you know so I can try to help to get everything together quicker.
Dude, that would make you at the same place I am if you got it and ripped out motor and trans. I have done the trans and motor removal about 3 .5 times so you are welcome to gimme a buzz if you want tips.
Attention is undue as progress is not fast enough for some folks like the guy in the link below and you will know who I am referring to here:
https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...-diesel-67277/
At any rate, If you decide to go with the 240 flywheel, I have one with a good friction plate / pressure plate with good surface I could part with. Other guy is using the 700R4 gm plate and a Chevy V8 Flywheel. My biggest concern is maintaining the crank balance and Benz does that with weight. Different than gas engines, diesel torque does not benefit from light weight flywheels and nether does the power transfer to the drive train.
I could be wrong but there is too much data supporting this and I rather be right with a running motor than be wrong with a destroyed motor. Although that would give me an excuse to hunt down a om606.


