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Old May 8, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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Old May 8, 2018 | 10:35 AM
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Bummer, Alex. You could pull off a quick and dirty rebuild?

Main bearings $30
Rod bearings $30
Connecting rod bolts $40
Piston rings $60 (optional)
Front cover? $300
Gaskets, seals $30

I think that's all off the top of my memory. No special tools or skill needed really other than some plastigage, feeler gauge, engine hoist + leveler. Heck you could even do the bearings with engine in situ, but it wouldn't be fun
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 10:56 AM
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I have a front cover with new gears if you want to try it. I could only get about 6 lbs at idle with it, so I bought a new one from Lucky 8. Its yours if you'll pay the shipping.


Originally Posted by Alex_M

Of course, there is a chance I can throw a used front cover on it and run with it, but with all the bearing material I found I'm wondering if I'd even want to go that route. Maybe I'll borrow the front cover off the girlfriend's and see if that works.

I dunno. I'll keep you guys updated one way or another.
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Blake
Bummer, Alex. You could pull off a quick and dirty rebuild?

Main bearings $30
Rod bearings $30
Connecting rod bolts $40
Piston rings $60 (optional)
Front cover? $300
Gaskets, seals $30

I think that's all off the top of my memory. No special tools or skill needed really other than some plastigage, feeler gauge, engine hoist + leveler. Heck you could even do the bearings with engine in situ, but it wouldn't be fun
Jeff, where you getting those bearing prices? I checked Turner and LR Direct; cheapest I could find anywhere was like $150 for the set. New rings would be cool. The bore looks like new, but she's only got like 110 lbs of compression across the board, warm. Not terrible, but I'd like better.

If I fix it she's definitely getting a new front cover. This one's seen better days even other than the oil pump issue. Also add to that list a $65 ball hone and a $75 head gasket set. Good opportunity to drop in those 4.0 pistons to bump the compression a bit, which would cost me bearings and rings to throw that extra 4.6 rotating assembly in the girl's 4.0. are the con rod pins press fit in the pistons on these trucks?

Also, I was under the impression the con rod bolts weren't stretch bolts, so it shouldn't need new ones. Right?
 

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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Davis31052
I have a front cover with new gears if you want to try it. I could only get about 6 lbs at idle with it, so I bought a new one from Lucky 8. Its yours if you'll pay the shipping.
Davis, I appreciate the offer. She'll get a new front cover either way at this point, so no real need. What'd the cover from L8 run you? $300?
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:24 AM
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Con rod bolts are TTY, one time use.

Cheapest and best source is Turner:
https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk/...s-c102x3005626
Main bearings 25 pounds
Con rod bearings 20 pounds
Front cover genuine 245 pounds (does lucky8 sell the Britpart one? I don't know)
I underestimated piston rings.. those are actually 125 pounds

I preach turner all the time for engine parts!

Ideally you will want to inspect the crankshaft first to see if it needs turning, and order the appropriate sized bearings accordingly. Crank polish is like $40, turning it is around $100 (machinist)

Yes con rods and press fit in with a grudgeon pin. I didn't dissemble mine. Manual calls for a few special tools.
 

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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
Jeff, where you getting those bearing prices?
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The cheapest cover available through Lucky 8 is $403.00.
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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Ouch. Yeah, better off through Turner then, depending on shipping. I think it was $330 from Turner.

Also just double checked those bearing prices. I was wrong. Turner has main and rod bearings for like $55. I think Buick 300 bearings are the same size though. Be neat to check.
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Could probably also use Buick 300 head gaskets. $10 ea for FelPro plus, what, $30 for bolts?

I'm gonna look more into Buick parts. I once had all the specs to see what crossed over from the 215 and the 300, but now I don't recall. I'll have to do some more research.
 
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Old May 8, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
Could probably also use Buick 300 head gaskets. $10 ea for FelPro plus, what, $30 for bolts?

I'm gonna look more into Buick parts. I once had all the specs to see what crossed over from the 215 and the 300, but now I don't recall. I'll have to do some more research.
Or get the good Elring gaskets from Turner for $15/ea!
Main and rod bearings are both King (USA)
 
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